Smoke 'em out of parks; New cig-ban plan

New York Post ^ | September 15, 2009 | SALLY GOLDENBERG & LACHLAN CARTWRIGHT

[Eric Blair 2084]

New York City to smokers: Butt out of our parks.

Health Commissioner Thomas Farley announced yesterday he wants to ban smoking in public parks and city beaches as part of a plan to make New Yorkers healthier.

"We don't think children, parents, when they're standing at soccer games, should have to be breathing in smoke from the person next to them," Farley said after unveiling the city's 10-point plan alongside Mayor Bloomberg.

"We don't think our children should have to be watching someone smoke."

The city could outlaw puffing in parks through legislation passed by the City Council or an administrative rule change by the Parks Department, Farley said. The mayor said his anti-smoking agenda includes glaring, "with not a particularly nice look," at smokers gathered outside buildings.

"Social pressure really does work," said Bloomberg, himself a former smoker.

[Eric Blair 2084]

OK, on the surface this looks like another dog bites man story. Smoking ban. The smell is annoying, public health SHS whatever, blah, blah.....Nothing unusual here until you dig a little deeper.

Sometimes the statist lets the truth out by accident.

Witness this quote:

"We don't think our children should have to be watching someone smoke."

A late great friend of mine Gian Turci saw this coming years ago. He's not here to say "I told you so". He left it for his friends to carry the torch. (FWIW, he didn't die of lung cancer or emphysema, he died of a brain hemmorhage). He wrote:

''The aim of these criminals is one and one only: to change the culture through fraud. I would like to articulate here. The upper echelon of "public health" knows absolutely well that passive smoke dangers are a fraud – and, by the same token, that not even one death can be demonstrated to be caused by smoking. Yet – for the reasons we both know – they continue to push the fraud to achieve the cultural change and enrich Big Pharma in the process. For a colourful example: what physical harm can a man do to society if he walk down the street with his penis dangling out of his pants? None. Yet, it is forbidden in every country because it’s cultural. It was not always like that – and even today there are some tribes who go fully naked. You catch the drift: the goal of these bastards is to make it INDECENT to smoke in public (streets and parks included), immoral to smoke in private, forbidden to smoke in cars, forbidden to smoke in your own home in the presence of children and non smokers – so you are forced to quit and, hopefully, you will join the ranks of the intolerants for a whole series of mental dynamics that takes too long to explain here. They are succeeding.

We are very close to that now: I estimate that in 3-4 years max smoking in public (streets included) will be made as illegal as hanging your penis out – REGARDLESS of the scientific arguments because, by then, it will be cultural; after all, we have in most of Canada the same thing for alcohol, right? Can’t be seen drinking, can’t show sealed beer packs on the car’s back seat! So we have a very small window of opportunity left to act by using science; after that, it will not matter anymore.''

[rovenstinez]

Then can we also BUTT OUT child pedaphiles in public restrooms.... and not give them their privacy to conduct sexual favors on each other?

[ColdWater]

We are very close to that now: I estimate that in 3-4 years max smoking in public (streets included) will be made as illegal as hanging your penis out –

Some smokers look like they have a limp one hanging out their mouth.

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[Doe Eyes]

I estimate that in 3-4 years max smoking (tobacco leaves) in public (streets included) will be made as illegal as

smoking marijuana leaves currently is. Too bad, so sad.

[Drango]

what physical harm can a man do to society if he walk down the street with his penis dangling out of his pants? None.

The smoking wars are over. Sure there are a few death rattles but the wars are over. Society can and will restrict where smoke or "hang your penis out".

[blackbart.223]

"Health Commissioner Thomas Farley announced yesterday he wants to ban smoking in public parks and city beaches as part of a plan to make New Yorkers healthier."

Would this apply to Obama? Mister heath still smokes as I understand.

[GOP_Lady]

Hello, Sir Eric!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately, I cannot think of a dignified way to express my feelings at the moment after reading this article.

Remind me not to go to NYC.

I detest CONTROL FREAKS.

[Lawgvr1955]

The problem non smokers and others will find out in due time is that when smokers quit paying the "sin" tax the government will have to replace the loss income with a tax on the non smoker in some form or fashion. Good reason to quit being for increasing taxes "that you never pay" because you don't use the item or service.

When the tax gets high enough on the item, people will quit using it and suddenly you are paying higher taxes and getting over your smugness.

[GOP_Lady]

I think there should be an excessively high tax on abortions.

[GOP_Lady]

STUFF IT, Drango.

[eXe]

Well.. from looking at how “well” the smoking ban in Nevada took hold.. society can TRY to restrict it.. lol but for the most part the people ignore it.

The smoking wars are far from over.. and the more the smoke Nazis push, the more people become “over it” and do as they please.

[boop]

Too bad you can’t have sex in public restrooms. So sorry.

[murphE]

He’s a mad man.

[trumandogz]

It’s not the whiff of smoke in the air but rather the butts that smokers carelessly dispose of in the streets, parks, beeches, lakes, sidewalks, trails, etc.

Make it simple just bust those who toss their butts on the ground with littering.

[Rebelbase]

I don’t agree with the smoking part, but I definitely don’t want you “hanging your penis out” anywhere around me or my family.

[takenoprisoner]

"Health Commissioner Thomas Farley announced yesterday he wants to ban smoking in public parks and city beaches as part of a plan to make New Yorkers healthier."

It's nearly impossible for them to catch and apprehend predators in the parks, but I'd wager they can catch and fine nearly all smokers.

[GOP_Lady]

Hubby and I were in Vegas a few weeks ago.

Hubby was actually allowed to enjoy a cigar with his Crown Royal with other like-minded adults while listening to live jazz being played on dualing pianos.

It was heaven being away from CONTROL FEAKS.

We’ll be going back again in November.

[trumandogz]

The smoking wars are over.

Their only hope now is to have smokers classified as disabled under the Americans for Disabilities Act.

[mojo114]

Bloomberg is a hugh nanny state guy. He is trying to make NYC into a European city. The funny part is that people smoke like crazy in Europe, outside, inside all around the town.
Bring back Rudy. Since Rudy left as mayor, we don’t visit NYC as much as we did because NYC has gone down hill. When Rudy was there it was much cleaner and no pan handlers.