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Judge tosses out Army captain's complaint questioning president's birth; Orly Taitz on notice
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Posted on 09/16/2009 9:48:30 AM PDT by vikk
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To: IntolerantOfTreason
It goes back to Geneva Convention protections in a combat zone.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:33:25 AM PDT
by
roaddog727
(It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
To: roaddog727
Same subject tho, correct?
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:33:30 AM PDT
by
Neets
(Normal is in the eye of the beholder)
To: Aria
suggest asking your son to produce any birth certificate that lists religion. I’ve got two originals from different states in my hand (with raised seals and file numbers) - nothing about religion.
When faced by wild ridiculous statements by RATs, just ask them to produce factual evidence or shut up.
To: Neets
Same subject, different case.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:34:19 AM PDT
by
roaddog727
(It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
To: Dan Middleton
“No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. Its always been assumed.”
Since Chester Arthur (about whom it turned out later to have been a mistaken assumption), there has been no doubt about the circumstances of birth—until now.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:34:35 AM PDT
by
Genoa
To: mlo
You are incorrect.
Such a ruling cannot be made, in good faith, without discovery. After discovery, then it can be determined whether there is merit in the claim.
This judge’s rulings, and actions, will be irrelevant as long as the case filed in California proceeds.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:35:03 AM PDT
by
UCFRoadWarrior
(America is still great....no matter what Globalists, Communists, Anti-Birthers, Terrorists think)
To: Non-Sequitur
In California.
(The Obama Enablers will do anything to keep this guy in office...sheesh)
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:38:04 AM PDT
by
UCFRoadWarrior
(America is still great....no matter what Globalists, Communists, Anti-Birthers, Terrorists think)
To: mlo
68
posted on
09/16/2009 10:38:23 AM PDT
by
dalereed
To: roaddog727
A ruse does not include a court-martial.:-)
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:38:47 AM PDT
by
verity
To: Dan Middleton
re: prove they were eligible . . Its always been assumed.
And with good reason, they didn’t go to extraordinary lengths to keep their birth certificates from being released.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:39:49 AM PDT
by
jwparkerjr
(God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
To: roaddog727
"Judge Land Presided over MAJ Cooks hearing and was also dismissed." That's correct. The orders for deployment were rescinded rendering the application for TRO moot. How else would have you have had the bench rule in that case?
As conservatives, we should expressly desire for judges to follow the law, not to make it up as they go along. For Land to have done anything other than dismiss would clearly have been "making it up" as he went along - hardly a conservative position.
There's nothing more unbecoming in a conservative than hypocrisy. The hypocrisy on display by many on and about this topic is unrelenting with respect how they wish for jurists to behave, rather than expecting the judge to follow the law as well as his obligations as outlined in the Federal Rules for Civil Procedures - rules that are understood by every 1L in the country. It's painfully hypocritical and equally unbecoming.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:40:11 AM PDT
by
OldDeckHand
(No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
To: drypowder
The Republican Party and Bush-McCainites screwed up by not making BO’s Consitutitional qualifications a campaign issue. McCain didn’t even try to win with his mamby-pamby attitude. If I’d been running, the public would have seen a lot of video of the Dem primary debates—where was it? Basically, the people of the US have been sold out by those in power and it is time to seriously clean house.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:40:38 AM PDT
by
dtrpscout
(A bad dog is better than most good people.)
To: wintertime
I enjoyed that comment. It's so true. And servants were slaughtered and buried with their Egyptian Pharaohs. And mafia underdogs were put down to cover their owner's tracks. Same story everywhere. But I hadn't thought about it in quite this way before. Thank you.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:41:01 AM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: Lord_Baltar
Even though I had a father and mother i’m proud to call myself a bastard!!
I’m MEAN BASTARD AND DAMN PROUD OF IT!!!!
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:41:26 AM PDT
by
dalereed
To: OldDeckHand
As conservatives, we should expressly desire for judges to follow the law, not to make it up as they go along. For Land to have done anything other than dismiss would clearly have been "making it up" as he went along - hardly a conservative position.
There's nothing more unbecoming in a conservative than hypocrisy. The hypocrisy on display by many on and about this topic is unrelenting with respect how they wish for jurists to behave, rather than expecting the judge to follow the law as well as his obligations as outlined in the Federal Rules for Civil Procedures - rules that are understood by every 1L in the country. It's painfully hypocritical and equally unbecoming.
From the opinion:
"Any middle school civics student would readily recognize the irony of abandoning fundamental principles upon which our Country was founded in order to purportedly protect and preserve those very principles."
To: Pride in the USA
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:43:36 AM PDT
by
lonevoice
(This tagline is identical to the one you are reading)
To: drypowder
He may have been threatened with an aspirin bottle...
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:44:12 AM PDT
by
thecraw
(Follower of Jesus...American...Tennessean...Birther! You Betcha!)
To: vikk
He’s basically saying that “It’s been twittered ya’all”.
Hell we don’t even need courts to be the finders of fact any longer since twitter arrived.
We’ve got to get these morons off the bench.
To: Dan Middleton
No other presidential candidate has ever had to prove they were eligible beforehand. Its always been assumed. McCain did.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:45:45 AM PDT
by
Charles Martel
(NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
To: mlo
"The judge was correct, you guys fail to understand how things work. You expect the court to do your investigating. You have to present a case *first*, then you might get to discovery. You can't just walk into court and say I *think* he might not be qualified so can we force discovery to find out?" Unfortunately, your well-reasoned logic will be lost on many that stalk these threads. You'll be branded an Obot, a moron a liar and probably worse. Gird your loins.
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posted on
09/16/2009 10:45:50 AM PDT
by
OldDeckHand
(No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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