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Judge tosses out Army captain's complaint questioning president's birth; Orly Taitz on notice
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Posted on 09/16/2009 9:48:30 AM PDT by vikk
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To: Cosimo de Medici
Nice strawman, troll.
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09/17/2009 2:07:07 PM PDT
by
grey_whiskers
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To: tet68
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What happened to my America?"
We allowed idiots to sit on the bench.
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09/17/2009 3:10:30 PM PDT
by
The Anti-One
(So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
To: El Gato
The Federal Rules of Evidence are statutory law. They were enacted by Congress in 1975, and are codified in the Appendix to Title 28 of the United States Code.
There are no rules of evidence in the Constitution, other than things like the requirement for two witnesses to convict someone for treason, the Confrontation Clause of the 6th Amendment, and the Self-Incrimination Clause in the 5th Amendment. The Constitution sets forth the qualifications for service as President of the United States, but is silent on how and to what standard those qualifications or the lack thereof are to be proven and on how any disputes over an individual's qualifications are to be resolved.
To: OldDeckHand
Where does she get the idea that it doesn’t matter where Obama was born if his father was a British subject? I guess she’s never bothered to read the 14th Amendment, either.
To: The Pack Knight
"Where does she get the idea that it doesnt matter where Obama was born if his father was a British subject? I guess shes never bothered to read the 14th Amendment, either." Hey, give her a break. There are 27 of them. I'm guessing she's still in the single digits. She'll get there, eventually.
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09/17/2009 6:48:43 PM PDT
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OldDeckHand
(No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
To: OldDeckHand
And I'll actually confess that I wasn't familiar with the case law surrounding the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment. I knew about the blurb in the Slaughter House Cases, but I generally wrote that off as dicta. For that matter, it's dicta in what I consider one of the most poorly reasoned opinions in the history of the Supreme Court - worse than Roe and rivaling even Swift v. Tyson.
It seemed rather cut-and-dry to me that anyone born in the United States to parents here legally, not part of a diplomatic mission, and (perhaps) not here simply as tourists were "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States and, therefore, citizens under the 14th Amendment. Certainly someone whose mother is a US citizen ought to qualify, and I'm not aware of anyone who is disputing that Obama's mother's citizenship.
Yeah, maybe he wasn't actually born in the United States, and that would certainly be a problem. However, the brief here argued that it didn't matter where he was born, which seems absurd.
I don't want to write off the issue of Obama's birthright citizenship, since some of his actions regarding that matter have been questionable. Yahoos like Orly Taitz certainly aren't lending any credibility to that cause, however.
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