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To: piytar
I don't think our military learns from its mistakes at all.

The U.S. military is filled with hacks who put their careers ahead of the safety of their subordinates. It's just as true in 2009 as it was in 1983.

In both cases, just think of how many decisions were made up and down the entire chain of command that caused these tragic results.

20 posted on 09/16/2009 7:22:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Alberta's Child

So, we made a decision to send Marines into any area where they might be ambushed, and there was a rule in place that they could not be supported if attacked? Did this Marines know about this? I think not, since they knew to call for help.

Now, are we going to do the same thing again today? Or are we just giving up on seraching for the enemy?

If we are giving up our search, what is the expected outcome?

It sounds to me like we are willing to sacrifice Marines for the political positioning of the alleged Commander in Chief (de facto).

The point is to make the public clamber for a withdrawal from the territory to avoid wasting our troops. Then Obama will have political cover to withdraw the troops, claiming that is what the people want.

I truly hate the power structure that sacrifices the lives and fortunes of the people to stay in power. God help us all as we become weaker and weaker, and as the light of our example of freedom diminishes.


37 posted on 09/16/2009 7:51:40 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Alberta's Child
In both cases, just think of how many decisions were made up and down the entire chain of command that caused these tragic results.
48 posted on 09/16/2009 8:05:24 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Alberta's Child
In both cases, just think of how many decisions were made up and down the entire chain of command that caused these tragic results.

In this case you only have to look up to the top. The ROE, and the article says this, caused this, the ROE comes from Bozo, Bozo is the commander in chief and is responsible for this mess, directly responsible because he is the one who changed the ROE to not shoot back if civilians would be in danger. Quit apologizing for Bozo, you are showing your ignorance, or maybe your liberalism.

49 posted on 09/16/2009 8:05:39 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Alberta's Child
In an ongoing war such as WWII and Korea I don't believe the politicians got involved. However, except for the Bush years when he turned the field decisions over to the military leaders, from Vietnam, Somalia, and now, politics rule.
85 posted on 09/16/2009 12:04:21 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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