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Posted on 09/15/2009 2:28:45 PM PDT by dynachrome
The city just installed high-tech cameras that catch every car that rolls through the city limits. And city residents say they are willing to give up privacy for protection.
Resident Kay Stelter says she feels a little better knowing that there are an extra set of eyes keeping tabs.
"I do, even though it makes me nervous that it's me that they're seeing," she said.
For years, people in Medina have relied on gates to protect their homes and property. But now they've added surveillance video.
The Medina City Council approved the cameras after Medina reported 11 burglaries in 2008 -- nearly double the six robberies reported the previous year.
"They read the license plates of the cars, and compare them to our police databases," said Police Chief Jeffrey Chen.
(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.com ...
"The system isn't going to be misused," Chen said.
I don’t see this as a privacy concern, because it is a public street.
I don’t expect privacy in public.
While I don’t expect privacy on a public street, neither do I expect constant surveillance on a public street. Sometimes you just need to scratch your butt.
Well ok, you know, scratch.
It would be like a cop in a car keeping an eye out. Or a toll taker, or whatever. If it’s public, it’s public.
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
[Benjamin Franklin}
I don’t see government surveillance of the people as compatible with Freedom and Liberty. One just needs to extrapolate a little. Look at the UK where in 2006 they had 4,200,000 cameras - one for every 14 people. With computing capabilities in the future, no-one here can see the incompatibility with Freedom and Liberty? The opportunity for abuse of the people by a tyrannical government?
When combined with computers, the potential for a police state are stunning. How can the people have freedom of assembly and association? How can you have freedom of movement and travel for whatever purpose - you know the Ivan Jones types want to impose restrictions on energy use as a control. What better control than to monitor every car and it’s amount of travel, to where, when, etc.
How about these surveillance cameras and computers grabbing license plates of patrons of gun stores and gun ranges, who just happen to suffer a rash of burglaries? The opportunity for a police state is just staggering once we let the government begin surveillance and tying it together with computing horsepower.
I’m sorry, this is clearly a 4th amendment violation. Having computers and cameras constantly monitoring and tabulating everyone all the time is not equivalent to a cop riding a beat.
Look at the UK where in 2006 they had 4,200,000 cameras - one for every 14 people.
Hasn’t helped the crime problem there at all.
What a bunch of good liberals. Keep that riff-raff out!
“Look at the UK where in 2006 they had 4,200,000 cameras - one for every 14 people.
Hasn’t helped the crime problem there at all.”
Because government surveillance is not about crime, it is about controlling the people.
Yup.
Say WA? Evergreen State ping All the adults who can pass a safety test should be armed. That would be a much better way to protect the residents.
| "They read the license plates of the cars, and compare them to our police databases," said Police Chief Jeffrey Chen.
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note: concealed weapons permits in WA don’t require a safety test or classes. Just a background check and 60 bucks and week or so for processing the license.
its easier to a get a cwp here than in Texas or most other states.
and yes they should be armed
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If it's as accurate as the OCR built into Adobe Acrobat, that thing will sooner or later get somebody killed. Just picture the scene when five cop cars full of officers who think they are about to confront a murderer surround some poor accountant on his way home. One bad nervous move and a father of three dies in a hail of bullets. Because text recognition software made a mistake.