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1 posted on 09/14/2009 11:22:08 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6178045/Two-thousand-schoolgirls-suffer-suspected-ill-effects-from-cervical-cancer-vaccine.html

2 posted on 09/14/2009 11:24:13 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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We’re supposed to ship out the illegaal immigrants aren’t we?


3 posted on 09/14/2009 11:25:48 PM PDT by Tempest (I believe in the sanctity of life... As long as you can afford it.)
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She applied to be an American citizen 10 YEARS AGO??

Gads. This is just sick. This vaccine wasn’t even around back then.


4 posted on 09/14/2009 11:26:30 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp; luckystarmom; hocndoc; NittanyLion; perseid 67; Dick Vomer; PAR35; ...

If you want on or off my Gardasil ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


5 posted on 09/14/2009 11:26:45 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (I wonder why Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) is so afraid of talking with his constituents?)
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More over-reaching by the government-worshippers.


6 posted on 09/14/2009 11:30:21 PM PDT by marron
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That’s a rather totalitarian regulation. HPV is hardly a highly communicable disease. You have to engage in a specific activity to contract it. It’s not airborne or waterborne nor fatal or crippling. It sounds like payback to Big Pharma for stuffing some D.C. pockets.


7 posted on 09/14/2009 11:30:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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Already posted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2339302/posts


8 posted on 09/14/2009 11:33:02 PM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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Cervical cancer isn’t a communicable disease.. Big Pharma got one Hell of a deal.


20 posted on 09/14/2009 11:50:36 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (“Cap and Trade bill tells us how to live.. Health Care bill tells us how to die.” Bauer and Rose)
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This is what I was talking about on the swine flu thread.. its just the beginning..


21 posted on 09/14/2009 11:50:43 PM PDT by Awestruck (Now if we can only get the rest of the "republican" leaders to stand up to the liberals.)
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Who here loves “anchor babies”?

Raise your hands, I want to see them?


37 posted on 09/15/2009 12:15:02 AM PDT by Tempest (I believe in the sanctity of life... As long as you can afford it.)
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“But the U.S. government requires female immigrants between the ages of 11 and 26 to receive Gardasil shots before they can become citizens.”

The entire class of HPV virus strains is mostly a sexually transmitted virus, which means that if a female has the virus she had to get it from a virally active sexual partner. The cases of possible risk from “skin-to-skin” contact has been identified only for cases where one party was identified with genital warts, also found hosting HPV and HPV was found outside the genital region, under the fingernails. For ANYONE to suggest that most every female who obtains this virus got it from someone other than a male carrier she had genital-to-genital or hand-to-genital contact is simply not scientific.

http://www.health-science-report.com/alotek/topics3/article51/

Therefore, here’s the question for the legal beagles:

Does the same law REQUIRE male immigrants between the ages of 11 and 26 to get tested to see if they are carriers of any strain of HPV??? No!!!!!!!

Guess what, and guess why? There is no test yet devised for finding it in the male penis, or in the male urogenital tracts.

Gardasil and its promotion are about two things: another way try to ease young women’s minds about being promiscuous and unwarranted revenue for the maker of Gardasil.

If that were not the case, the federal interest in this would be to develop the tests for it beyond the female cervix swab test, which is the only real test available now; and then, if the fascist lawyers wanted, to require mandatory testing of young-men who have reached or passed puberty, so any HPV-positive-carriers could be identified, and so that they could then be required to tell their sexual partners to be vaccinated against HPV.

Yet, the real kicker is, although HPV cannot be “cured” (cannot be completely killed off by drugs) “HPV usually goes away on its own, without causing health problems. So an HPV infection that is found today will most likely not be there a year or two from now.” http://www.cdc.gov/STD/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm

And yet a sexually active male who is told about genital warts and finds himself noticing he may have it, knows, without any doctor needed, that he most likely has a strain of HPV and should not be sexually active, unless his partner is vaccinated for HPV. Even if he allows that occasion to pass without doing anything about it, and even if it goes away, he may still remain a carrier for some time.

So, why then shouldn’t a young woman care as much about knowing how trustworthy her sexual partner really is - like enough to make a lifetime commitment - before she “hooks up” with him, as she is asked to care about being vaccinated with Gardasil. The fact is, Gardasil itself only offends a few strains of HPV, making it a false promise to begin with.

Again, it really should be a question of personal responsibility and not universal vaccination of a whole class of people, just so that promiscuous and unattached sexual partners can assume, and continue irresponsible behavior with less worry.


54 posted on 09/15/2009 12:28:09 AM PDT by Wuli
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On your point of “equality”, the law, in the present state of HPV medical science, could have required male immigrants, 11 to 26, to get a doctors test for at least the outward symptoms of being a carrier - genital warts. I think a televised Congressional tussle over making that case would be hilarious and yet might actually get the present Gardasil vaccination provision tossed out.


61 posted on 09/15/2009 12:38:29 AM PDT by Wuli
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Rick Perry wanted to make girls in Texas get this vaccine before he was called out on it.


69 posted on 09/15/2009 12:47:19 AM PDT by Nextrush (Sarah Palin is the new Ronald Reagan)
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Holy Heck, was this not just YESTERDAY in a Kansas newspaper??

http://www.kansas.com/news/story/968761.html

This vaccine is killing girls.


71 posted on 09/15/2009 12:50:08 AM PDT by Yaelle
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Girl Rejects Gardasil, Loses Path to Citizenship
93 posted on 09/15/2009 1:13:25 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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All I want to know and can’t seem to find it anywhere, did Malia get her shot for her Birthday?


126 posted on 09/15/2009 2:05:36 AM PDT by MA~Bear
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Simple solution ... Withdraw the request for citizenship

this is no longer America... We are now Amerika, home of the wonton and undeserving. Hopefully we will be able to snatch the dream out of hell before the country is to far gone... Which, sadly, may already be too late

besides, illegals in the US get all the benefits and pay no taxes... So why bother anyhow?


129 posted on 09/15/2009 2:14:44 AM PDT by sten
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Remember freedom my fellow citizens? Liberals have stolen it from you. Under the FALSE pretense of saving us from ourselves (code for justifying their failed and immoral world view) they demand you take things that you do not need. Especially at the age we are speaking of...ALL THE WHILE crying and whining about how its “MY BODY” when they are busy murdering babies in the name of their selfishness and convenience.

Liberals...the REAL baby killers.

137 posted on 09/15/2009 3:08:32 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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I know this girl is not a citizen, but this is a great example of government out of control.


146 posted on 09/15/2009 5:24:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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158 posted on 09/15/2009 3:05:21 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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