Posted on 09/14/2009 1:52:41 PM PDT by Jack Black
K. Weapons and explosives
The possession or use of explosives, incendiary materials, or weapons (weapons include, but are not limited to, guns, firearms, shotguns, rifles, air rifles, paintball and pellet guns, BB guns, Tasers, and knives) by any Yale student, which is absolutely prohibited on campus, in areas surrounding the campus, or in off-campus housing. Students participating in club sports or in any other recreational or sporting activities involving the use of firearms must adhere to this prohibition and to the protocols established by the University with respect to the possession, use, storage, and transportation of any firearms (see Club Sports Handbook, Section O, Sporting Firearms).
Liberals, such as the staff and administration of Yale, believe strongly in such systems as a sort of magic totem that will prevent harm to the weak. Sadly their belief has about as much power as that of the Cargo Cultists.
At some point, surely, Annie Le realized that the man in her lab had very very bad intentions.
Yale University's unethical, immoral and possibly Unconstitutoinal regulations assured that he would succeed with his nefarious crime, and that Annie would die for the sake of liberal's twisted belief system.
Annie Le needed a gun. Yale said no. Annie died.
And every hood in town knows these kids—many of them rich—go around completely unarmed.
Except that Annie Le was killed inside a high-security building, a science lab, and stuffed into a wallspace. Odds are, she knew her killer, and would likely have never had the chance to use a firearm if she had even thought to prior to the onset of the assault. It’s not as though she were mugged outside in a park or something. Further, I recall reading on another thread that the victim was a very gentle, softspoken person, and quite possibly would not have had the mental “toughness” required to fire on another human (though admittedly training might have mitigated that). Unfortunately, while the right to carry should most certainly be extended to campus, it likely would not have made the difference in this particular circumstance.
You may well be right. On the other hand it has been reported that she had written an article for a publication on the crime problem in the Yale / New Haven area. So she was certainly thinking about security before the incident.
I’m not so sure it will turn out to be someone she knew. We had a similar killing at University of Portland and it turned out to be a transient I believe.
Yup. Pretty certain it was somebody she knew who in a sense had stalked her.
Common criminals aren’t gonna mess with a scene like that - way, way too much security and unknowns - there’s much easier pickins out on the streets somewhere. And students aren’t renowned for carrying around tons of cash.
Sometimes the dragon wins.
I agree about guns on campus, but this was a far more planned attack in a secure area.
Scuse me? Where do they get off with this?
The Constitution is a contract between the people and the government; it does not apply to a private university like Yale.
A far cry from when I was in undergraduate school in Arizona. We could have firearms in the dorm and no one thought anything about it. There never was an incident involving guns while I was there or ever as far as I know.
My experience of “secure” areas on campuses is that any card key lock, fence, remote controlled gate, etc. can easily be overcome by anyone who politely holds the door open for the person coming up behind him/her.
BTTT
This is very true.
I travel a lot. I can't tell you how many times someone has held the secure door for me. I'm not a bad person, but if one were, the "secure doors" are not worth very much.
It is good Social security to train people not to allow "tailgating"
“likely would not have made the difference in this particular circumstance.”
It might have if perp thought there was a possibility that she was armed
that was my first thought as well...even off-campus?
The Constitution is a contract between the people and the government; it does not apply to a private university like Yale.
I said "possibly" because Yale is a very old University. I know that Harvard has it's own police force. These are not security guards like many schools have, this is a fully state-chartered police force, just like the City of Cambridge. They carry guns and have full power to arrest anyone in a certain area. As it turns out Harvard pre-dates the civic organization of the city it is located in by quite a few decades. This explains the reason for their dual existence as both a private and public institution.
I said possibly because I don't know the details of Yales's charter and incorporation, but I suspect it may be similar, given Yale's age.
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