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To: Hodar
How did your exercise of your rights impact others around you?

You're right: Liberty is not the only concern. But it is the first concern, and must not be ignored. If liberty is to be preserved, the case for abridging it must be overwhelming. And profits for Merck don't make such a case.

Yes, I believe that's all this is about - money. As was posted earlier, Gov. Perry tried to force this vaccine on young Texan girls, and got slapped down for it. It seems Americans by and large don't want this forced on their daughters.

"But hold on a sec, we can force it on immigrants, can't we? That'll work! And maybe we'll get some good results from these tests, and slowly get the public accustomed to the vaccine, and then later mandate it for everybody."

I'm not opposed to mandating vaccinations. I'm not opposed to every abridgment of liberty. In fact, I took a lot of heat on this thread for advocating the abridgment of liberty in dire circumstances.

But these are not dire circumstance we're talking about, are they? There's no plague of venereal diseases decimating our population, is there? If so, we'd better come up with something just a bit more impressive than one vaccine, for one disease, and applicable only to immigrant girls who want to become citizens - wouldn't you say?
53 posted on 09/14/2009 10:14:50 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool
If so, we'd better come up with something just a bit more impressive than one vaccine, for one disease, and applicable only to immigrant girls who want to become citizens - wouldn't you say?

But the journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. My daughters are all married, and by virtue of our faith, and their mother's influence were not promiscous. However, I would not have hesitated in pushing my daughters to get this shot. Preventing a bad thing seems like common sense, it's just a smart thing to do. Wear sunscreen, use your seatbelts, don't drink to excess, don't smoke, if you choose to be sexually promiscous - use condoms.

Some people 'parasite' off of other people; such as in vaccinations. If everone around me get a flu shot, then I'm protected by association - I can be lazy and enjoy the benefits of immunity by depending upon those around me to all get their shots. But, if you get enough 'parasites' (ahem, illegal aliens - Mexicans) you wind up with a disease that has not appeared in decades taking lives that should not have been affected.

Legal immigrants are required to have medical screening to ensure that they do not bring any contagious diseases into the United States. Illegal aliens are not screened and many are carrying horrific third world diseases that do not belong in the USA. Many of these diseases are highly contagious and will infect citizens that come in contact with an infected illegal alien. This has already happened in restaurants, schools, and police forces. Link

As we get more an more illegals, we are finding our population placed at risk by people who not only are in violation of our laws by the mere fact of being here, they have not had vaccinations that are mandated to protect US citizens.

A vaccine is not a garrantee that you won't get the illness; it is simply a game of statistics. You are 80-90% immune per infectous incident. The more infections around you, the higher the odds that SOME infection will make it past your immunity and get you sick. With a classroom full of un-vaccinated children, the vaccinated children will likely get sick too.

You have to start somewhere.

58 posted on 09/14/2009 10:45:56 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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