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To: originalbuckeye
The best vaccine in the world is to say ‘no’ and fall in love with someone else who had the strength to also say ‘no’.

While I agree; this is simply not realistic. There is no upside to Cervical Cancer, it really has no benefits that I am aware of. As to other country's laws, I believe we are a sovereign nation - don't like our laws, then don't come here.

I understand and will grant you the assumption that the HPV virus mutates and may not be 'current'. However, isn't an ounce worth of prevention worth a pound of cure? We are playing game with statistics, are we as a nation better off preventing 0.000000001% of a chance of cancer from harming our population?

As for young women who enter our country and remain virgins until they marry, what percentage of girls follow this tradition? The one's that do not may catch and spread this disease; thereby infecting others.

I have no problem making these sort of requests upon immigrants, they want to come here, they need to adopt our customs, learn our languages and follow our laws. They were not invited, they chose to come.

As for international travel, think India, for example
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35 posted on 09/14/2009 9:39:08 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
are we as a nation better off preventing 0.000000001% of a chance of cancer from harming our population?

Are you really willing to sacrifice liberty for that gain, my FRiend?
37 posted on 09/14/2009 9:42:11 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Hodar
You're right. There is no upside to Cervical Cancer. Right now, the biggest threat to women in regards to Cervical Cancer is Government run healthcare. I worked in the NHS in Britain in the 80’s. I do Cervical Cancer screening. In Britain the NHS only covers women aged 25-49 every 3 years for a pap smear. Between 49 and 65 every 5 years. After age 65 you are only covered for a pap smear if you have symptoms. I will tell you now, if you are 65 or over and have symptoms......it's very likely way too late. The only reason women over 65 survive Gyn cancers is because we catch them before the woman has symptoms. If you want to help fight Cervical Cancer, fight the public option in Obama’s healthcare plan. Government run healthcare denies care all the time. I hope our citizenry wakes up before we have no more healthcare choices outside of the Government.
44 posted on 09/14/2009 9:50:37 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Hodar
There is no upside to Cervical Cancer, it really has no benefits that I am aware of.

But we are not talking about the choice between having CC, and not having CC. We are talking about the choice between getting a vaccination, or not.

If you don't get the vaccination, you have some small probability, say "X%" of getting cervical cancer. That probability is greatly affected by your lifestyle choice -- if you choose a celibate lifestyle, X is essentially 0% (rape is not going to change the equation enough to matter).

If you do get the vaccination, you still have a small probability of getting CC, (X-Y)%, where Y represents the protection given by the vaccine to a couple of the causes of CC.

But if you look at overall harm, your new equation is X-Y+Z %, where Z is the probability of harm caused by the vaccine.

Now, that harm is totally out of your control. But X wasn't. If you are celibate, X was 0%, while X-Y+Z is Z%, and since we KNOW that Z is non-zero, you are better off NOT taking the vaccine.

81 posted on 09/14/2009 11:29:38 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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