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Debate Over Tea Party Protest Numbers Masks the Real History Made
Pajamas Media ^ | Sept. 12 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/13/2009 9:35:20 AM PDT by AJKauf

What makes Saturday’s massive turnout around the country so significant is that it is the first truly conservative mass movement in American history. The amorphousness of conservatism until the 1950s probably had something to do with that. Conservatism prior to then was rather clubby and its “leaders” had very little interest in developing a mass movement like labor, socialists, or communists were attempting to do. Even the candidacies of Goldwater and Reagan were more party-oriented than ideological in nature, although there is little doubt that conservative activists learned how to organize an effective movement by being involved in both those races.

I think it unfair for the media or the left to characterize this movement as “Republican.” The fact that GOP politicians are seeking to hijack the movement for their own purposes should tell you that they themselves feel the separation and are drooling over the prospect of tapping the enthusiasm, the anger, and the commitment of the protestors for electoral gain.

It is definitely an opposition movement, however. Certainly there is mass unhappiness with President Obama and his policies....

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1 posted on 09/13/2009 9:35:20 AM PDT by AJKauf
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What makes Saturday’s massive turnout around the country so significant is that it is the first truly conservative mass movement in American history.

And that's it in a nutshell. And we do it up big time.

2 posted on 09/13/2009 9:36:35 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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Regardless of the numbers and relative accuracy of the numbers reported by the MSM the movers and shakers in both parties know how many people showed up to events in DC and across the country yesterday and through out the month of August. The hoped for fatigue isn't happening and the elections are getting closer.

What we have to guard against now are the entrenched politicians in both parties who, over the next 12 months, begin to talk and act conservative. We need to hold them all accountable for their records, not their rhetoric and purge them as necessary.

3 posted on 09/13/2009 9:42:03 AM PDT by Natural Law
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And.....it’s JUST the BEGINNING...


4 posted on 09/13/2009 9:42:22 AM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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To: Tarpon

While I think there’s truth to it being a ‘conservative mass movement’, I also think it’s MUCH MORE than that. More Democrats (the sane ones, not the socialist/marxist “progressives”) are also starting to recognize that this isn’t a ‘Democrat’ or ‘Republican’ thing.. it’s an American mass movement.

BTW, if anyone enjoys a good argument and/or educating rabid libs, you can help “HorsePal” with back up support here: http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?user=libertyhorse
(She’s the gal who made that great video of the Sac Tea Party tour send off 8/28 “Revolution Brewing” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zhPA6XkCYE ) Your chance to go rip into a few libs. (use any name you’d like - no registration is required)


5 posted on 09/13/2009 9:46:44 AM PDT by DDLL
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The Tea Party movement's core purpose and motivation is opposing Tyranny and (re)affirming Liberty!

How to distinguish Liberty from Tryanny:

  Liberty "Soft" Tyranny
1 Rights are inherent in, and unalienable from, individuals Rights are granted/rescinded by the majority through the government
2 Fundamental rights are life, liberty, and property (absence of coercion) Fundamental rights are food, housing, and healthcare (absence of necessity)
3 Property is owned by individuals who make decisions as to its use, improvement, and transfer Property is owned by 'the public' with government officials making decisions as to its use, improvement, and transfer
4 Government exists to protect the rights of individuals Government exists to plan and direct the resources of society
5 Government authority is decentralized in a federal system with limited and enumerated powers Government authority is centralized in a national system with broad and necessarily intrusive powers
6 Government action is prescribed by rules fixed and announced beforehand Government action is arbitrary and at the descretion of "czars" and planning boards
7 Economic activity is driven by a large number of small entities interacting according to simple rules Economic activity is driven by a small number of large entities operating within the constraints of complex regulations
8 Effective innovation results from contrarian thinking, individual initiative, and the voluntary exchange of property Efficient implementation of government planning requires conformity of opinion, collective action, and the coerced transfer of property
9 Standards of living for the many increase permanently as they utilize improved products and services conceived by the few Standards of living for the many increase temporarily as they utilize property redistributed from the few
10 Altruism is using one's own resources in concrete acts to help specific individuals Altruism is obligating the resources of others for broad-brush programs to help mankind in the abstract

Rights exists solely as a way to fairly decide whose will shall prevail in cases where two or more people disagree. They do not exist for the purpose of enslaving one person for the benefit of another (e.g., the "right" to free medical care.)

Liberty is the right to do whatever does not infringe the rights of others. Rights empower you to help yourself, free from interference by others.

Tyranny makes you a serf to be used by the elite to further their own power. Once upon a time, the nobility used religion to convince the serfs they had to serve the nobility. Modernly, the elite use good people's feelings of altruism to convince them to enslave both themselves and their neighbors. It's basically the same con game, just using a more sophisticated hook.

6 posted on 09/13/2009 9:49:54 AM PDT by sourcery (Party like it's 1776!)
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To: Natural Law

“What we have to guard against now are the entrenched politicians in both parties who, over the next 12 months, begin to talk and act conservative.”

Put simply, we have to watch what they DO, not what they say.


7 posted on 09/13/2009 9:51:21 AM PDT by VRWCRick
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Just watch the numbers come out and vote you fool out of office..I know there was a lot more people around the county that came out,that is not including the millions that went to Washington..Just remember democrats you are on notice as of today you had better start packing your bags..Old hag Pelosi will have no one to rule after the next election..
8 posted on 09/13/2009 9:54:17 AM PDT by PLD
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Just watch the numbers come out and vote you fool out of office..I know there was a lot more people around the county that came out,that is not including the millions that went to Washington..Just remember democrats you are on notice as of today you had better start packing your bags..Old hag Pelosi will have no one to rule after the next election..
9 posted on 09/13/2009 9:54:18 AM PDT by PLD
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Well, we knew this was coming, for crying out loud...

Everytime the dems have an event, the MSM bloats the numbers by thousands, and when conservatives have an event, they diminish it by thousands.

But, with TV, radio, and the internet available to most Americans, their lies can only stand for so long.

Next time I guess we're going to have set up a "Blazing Saddles" style "toll gate" and count the dimes we collect to get an accurate count. Of course, the dems will show up without any change and declare the whole thing as "racist".

Also, next time, we should all get one of those security badge holders on lanyards, and put a small copy of our own birth certificates in them and wear them around. We could chant, "Hey, obama, we'll show you ours if you'll show us yours."
10 posted on 09/13/2009 9:56:03 AM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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Next up— Tax Payer Revolt. They can’t arrest 20 million Americans for refusing to pay taxes....


11 posted on 09/13/2009 9:57:50 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: AJKauf
What makes Saturday’s massive turnout around the country so significant is that it is the first truly conservative mass movement in American history.

Conservative - has a nice ring to it. Take that Olympia Snowe - take that all you pubbies who want Wilson to grovel.

12 posted on 09/13/2009 10:00:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (Civil disobedience "conservative style": Cell phone tape ACORN criminals- download to FOX.)
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To: AJKauf
Good article. Some of the better excerpts...

This is history in the making, something the United States has never seen:...

But for the moment, it is a force in American politics unto itself. And this is a remarkable and historical achievement for the right no matter how you slice it.

13 posted on 09/13/2009 10:03:50 AM PDT by PGalt
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When is somebody going to add in the local tea party numbers? I was at the Tampa TP, must have been over a thousand people there.
14 posted on 09/13/2009 10:04:26 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Tarpon
"What makes Saturday’s massive turnout around the country so significant is that it is the first truly conservative mass movement in American history."

Well...not really


15 posted on 09/13/2009 10:18:51 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: ishabibble

We had probably 3000 at our TP in Salem, Oregon...


16 posted on 09/13/2009 10:19:06 AM PDT by goodnesswins (George Orwell would be proud. Truth are lies, Slavery is Freedom, Oppression is Feminism.)
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There was something like 3,000 at the Naples, Florida TP.


17 posted on 09/13/2009 10:24:29 AM PDT by Lucas McCain
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To: AJKauf

A short hand way to think of this is....”herding cats”. Conservatives don’t group-up because being conservative is fundamentally being an individual, while all leftist philosophy is about “the group”. So when a bunch of people who are conservative manage to get everybody in one place at one time saying one thing (LEAVE ME ALONE)..that makes it newsworthy.


18 posted on 09/13/2009 10:49:15 AM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: AJKauf

A short hand way to think of this is....”herding cats”. Conservatives don’t group-up because being conservative is fundamentally being an individual, while all leftist philosophy is about “the group”. So when a bunch of people who are conservative manage to get everybody in one place at one time saying one thing (LEAVE ME ALONE)..that makes it newsworthy.


19 posted on 09/13/2009 10:49:15 AM PDT by Anima Mundi
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I spoke to people from many different states yesterday and all of the one’s I spoke to stated that this was the frist time in their lives that they had ever protested anything. Same with me.

The folks who marched were just well behaved and yet passonate. The grounds were very clean when we left. The signs were homemade and very creative. I’m glad that we took out two teenaged kids to see this historic event.
Tom


20 posted on 09/13/2009 10:49:40 AM PDT by fatboy
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