Posted on 09/12/2009 5:38:18 PM PDT by george76
Within the past year Sarah Schupp has hired five new employees with freshly minted college degrees. She fired one on his first day for inappropriate sexual comments to a co-worker. Another lasted a week before getting a pink slip.
..." you can't call in sick at 7:45 a.m. just because you don't want to come to work at 8 a.m."
Jeanne Achille also was disappointed with the hiring of a recent college hire, promoted by a university professor as a "superstar" and fired after three weeks when it was discovered she spent hours online at work visiting a dating site. She also tweeted about a night of partying -- then e-mailed in sick the next day.
"Just who is supposed to be preparing these kids for the workplace?"
"Employers have always complained about a lack of hard and soft skills. The problem is that now employers don't have the luxury of letting employees learn on the job."
With only 15 employees, Achille says that "we don't go into a hiring decision lightly in this economy," and says no company can afford to put money into training new workers -- those dollars are reserved for "top talent," she says.
"We've decided to just not offer this position to an entry-level person anymore," Achille says. "We've had some good college students come and work here in the past, but we just can't afford to lose the productivity. It costs us money."
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DH hires teen boys to help bale hay every summer.
It depends on the kid but often the best are homeschoolers; followed by red-necks ;-)
The least useful workers are the suburban boys dragged out here by their parents who tell us, “He needs to learn how to work.”
If they have not learned how to work at home by that age, we can’t help them. Nor should we be expected to.
I was in a hire-fire position in the mid-70’s
Bleak was the word I used for the applicants I processed.
One lady-about 25 years old, claimed to have attended 3 different business colleges.
She hadn’t ‘graduated’ from any of them.
She kept referring to all 3 on her application.
SHE SPELLED BUSINESS WRONG ALL OVER THE APPLICATION !!
When I turned her down flat for a job in a payroll department, her ‘headhunter’ was indignant about the spelling problems. Said it didn’t matter if the applicant could spell or not.
I told the headhunter that I sincerely hoped that HER payroll records would be accurate for the rest of her working life, so that when she applied for HER Social Security, there would be no problems from poor spelling.
Sure am glad I spent most of my remaining years of working as self-employed.....
You hit the nail on the head! As much as I don’t like the education establishment, it is parents who must shoulder much of the blame for raising lazy kids. It is amazing how many teens don’t have to do any kind of work - not even around the house, let alone get a part-time job for pay.
We keep delaying the age when anyone is expected to assume any kind of responsibility for themselves, and then wonder why nobody ever grows up and acts like an adult. Kids should be doing some kind of work (chores) as soon as they are able to pick up their own toys, and it should progress from there.
I, too, worry about the future with so many people expecting someone else to take care of them and give them whatever they desire.
So then they want experienced people, but still only offer them 22k a year...and wonder why they can’t find a decent employee.”
Wait just a minute !!!
I am looking at an applicant who often stretches the truth on their resume.
I can spend even more money with an organization that checks backgrounds, but can still come up a cropper.
The applicant who thinks they DESERVE to start with no experience at a $65,000 or more a year salary hasn’t proven to me that they can write a coherent centence- speak a normal sensible conversation- arrive on time—stay focused on their job assignments- stay off the internet- stay off their cell phones- not Twitter at work....all these things.
Putting in a full 8 hours- really working at your job dities- just doesn’t occur to these ‘graduates’.
The horror stories I hear today from other people who have to work with anyone under the age of 35 are appalling. One neighbor quit a good job where he had seniority and experience and knowledge (Over 20 years) because the 2 jerk 19 y/o kids supposedly working at his store spent their days running RC cars in the parking lot and texting.
Management wouldn’t listen to him. He QUIT.
So then they want experienced people, but still only offer them 22k a year...and wonder why they can’t find a decent employee.”
Wait just a minute !!!
I am looking at an applicant who often stretches the truth on their resume.
I can spend even more money with an organization that checks backgrounds, but can still come up a cropper.
The applicant who thinks they DESERVE to start with no experience at a $65,000 or more a year salary hasn’t proven to me that they can write a coherent centence- speak a normal sensible conversation- arrive on time—stay focused on their job assignments- stay off the internet- stay off their cell phones- not Twitter at work....all these things.
Putting in a full 8 hours- really working at your job duties- just doesn’t occur to these ‘graduates’.
The horror stories I hear today from other people who have to work with anyone under the age of 35 are appalling. One neighbor quit a good job where he had seniority and experience and knowledge (Over 20 years) because the 2 jerk 19 y/o kids supposedly working at his store spent their days running RC cars in the parking lot and texting.
Management wouldn’t listen to him. He QUIT.
Their generation was just as unprepared and foolish as the current one.”
SOME of us were being recruited in HIGH SCHOOL.
I was one of those kids- good grades- finished my assignments-did good clean detailed work.
I was recruited as a senior in hs by one of the largest retail grocery chains in the country- which is still operating- for their regional offices near my home.
If they have not learned how to work at home by that age, we can’t help them. Nor should we be expected to.”
Don’t you just love being asked to “housebreak” a teenager ??
My brother retired from the company de started from scratch.
He calls today’s grads “educated idiots”.
Good luck in your job. My son worked at the family hardware store since he was 8. When we closed, he found a job right away at Tractor Supply. He hasn’t finished his degree, but they took him on because of his extensive background. He was promoted to asst. mgr. after only a year on the job. Work ethic and hard work still applies.
Actually, it used to be fairly rare for young college grads not to have worked steadily through high school and at least part-time through college.
Now, in combination with government funding for college and more affluent ‘helicopter’ parents, it’s pretty regular for kids to have done nothing more than a make-work internship or two into their early or mid-20’s. The cluelessness about employment and general sense of entitlement are markedly different than a generation or two ago.
Northeastern University has a coop plan that screens this problem out very well. Of course, they COULD try hiring veterans, which works out even better.
We could have a separate thread with IUD’s. I’d start it with any degree in ethnic studies.
All of the so called Ethnic studies result in IUD’s.
One of their tricks is to require 6-12 hours of these bs courses in other degrees.
Yeah but nobody wants to write newspaper stories about them. And even in the first paragraph, 60% of those new graduates apparently are working out fine. So maybe it's their interviewing process. And since it's entry level selling advertising for a website then I'll bet that their process isn't all that intensive.
It's easy to tar all college graduates with the same brush, but at the same time companies tend to get what they pay for.
Yes, sadly you’re correct. I don’t need to tell you the political orientation of the faculty tends to be uniformly Left.
>>So then they want experienced people, but still only offer them 22k a year...and wonder why they can’t find a decent employee.<<
You’re kidding right?
Where do you think you start in a company? It’s at the bottom and work your way up.
Don't you mean blow out the candle?
The 24 frat party "pretty" people are entitled unemployable bozos. They're also the best at making a first impression(can't get VD otherwise), so they're also the ones that get hired first.
The nerdy, underconfident, ugly duckling types work just as hard as they ever did. However, they don't get hired because the nimrods in HR are looking for preppy clones of themselves.
College education is a shambles, but corporate hiring is just as bad IMO.
She and her husband run an archery supply store, and they had their little grandson in there working from the time he was 4 or 5 years old. Even at that age, he knew all the stock and could take customers to the shelf and say, "That's the one you asked for . . . but my grandma likes THIS one over here better."
Now he's running his own business up in Tennessee and doing quite well.
They are more concerned with all there little devices and web distractions. iPods, texting, laptops, twitter, facebook, dating sites just huge wastes of time in most cases.
Hire interns to see if they are any good then hire them later. Alternatively, hire older people who need the job and will work hard plus they are responsible.
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