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Schools ban racy Twilight books by Stephanie Meyer
The Daily Telegraph ^
| September 12, 2009
| Lauren Dickson
Posted on 09/12/2009 2:51:31 AM PDT by myknowledge
PRIMARY school students have been banned from reading the teen cult classic Twilight books because they are too racy and contradict religious beliefs.
Librarians have stripped the books from shelves in some junior schools because they believe the content is too sexual and goes against religious beliefs.
They even have asked parents not to let kids bring their own copies of Stephenie Meyer's smash hit novels _ which explore the stormy love affair between a teenage girl and a vampire _ to school.
Santa Sabina College at Strathfield was so concerned about the Twilight craze that teachers ran a seminar for Year 6 students to discuss sexual and supernatural themes in the books. The school's head librarian Helen Schutz said:
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To: SECURE AMERICA
I think you are actually being rather naive, how many parents really know what their teens are doing 24 hours a day. Many teens who on the face of it are adhering to parents wishes and are restricted in the parental home once outside do things that would probably horrify parents and I suspect many will see this film without the parents knowledge. Many I suspect have seen Harry Potter films that many parents wish they had not and probably are not aware they have especially with DVDs coming out so soon after release they will be watched in friend's homes or even in their own without parents even realising it as many children have their own DVD players including personal ones that they can watch anywhere.
Whilst I understand the fear that the good gets banned with the bad do we not as Christians have to stand firm that some material is not desirable and has no place in government run libraries and schools, if we do not make the stand who is going to stand up for children of this generation many who do not have parents that are worthy of the title.
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posted on
09/12/2009 4:34:52 AM PDT
by
snugs
((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
To: YankeeGirl
Have you read de Sade?
Most people with your point of view are intellectually lazy. If shown actual examples of extreme “literature” they will agree that that particular item is inappropriate, but like to think of themselves as brave campaigners against censorship, so they make the same claim you do.
I’m not accusing you of this, as I assume your argument is sincere. But you need to be aware that it assumes there is not one single book out there that is inappropriate for a fourth-grader to read. Doi you really believe this?
I am also a lifelong reader. I’ve probably read somewhere around 10k books. A good few of them were not appropriate for a fourth-grader.
Would you approve of running hard-core porn on network TV at 7 pm? If not, why not? Most young children wouldn’t be interested, and the more mature ones would be able to handle it.
42
posted on
09/12/2009 4:41:12 AM PDT
by
Sherman Logan
("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
To: visualops
it was a single guy having a young scantily clad single woman living in his house... as a willing magical slave.
43
posted on
09/12/2009 4:42:54 AM PDT
by
1010RD
(First Do No Harm)
To: myknowledge
TWILIGHT SUMMARY (Warning, the maturity level of this summary is on par with the horrid writing of the books.)
KRISTEN STEWART goes to FORKS, WASHINGTON.
KRISTEN STEWART (V.O.)
Once upon a time, there lived an enchanting girl named Stephanie Meyer, er I mean Kristen Stewart. She was so awesome that her awesomeness couldn't be contained in Arizona, so she moved to Washington to stay with her father, who was totally lame and not cool.
BILLY BURKE
Hey honey. I'm super lame. I got you a car, but it's totally uncool because I'm totally uncool.
KRISTEN STEWART
Thanks Dad, or whatever. Time for my first day at a new school. Since every coming-of-age story requires the main character be a social outcast, I suppose I'll have to endure being the unpopular new girl until I do something that proves my worth.
KRISTEN goes to school and is INSTANTLY POPULAR AND BELOVED.
ANNA KENDRICK
Oh my God I love your hair you're so pretty will you be my new best friend?
GREGORY TYREE BOYCE
Can I take you out sometime since you're so awesome?
MICHAEL WELCH
No way you #$%^, I saw her first!
KRISTEN STEWART
I'd rather watch "The Messengers" than date either of you. Why don't you go ask Anna instead?
ANNA KENDRICK
Ohmigod I'm getting Kristen's rejects, that's so awesome!
KRISTEN STEWART
Wow. I guess this is what it looks like when the unpopular fat girl's pathetic daydreams get written down and published into a bestselling book. Aren't well-written characters supposed to have flaws?
ANNA KENDRICK
Flaws? Oh, well, um, I suppose you could argue that you're a little TOO perfect and amazing. But I don't think so. Let's make out.
Suddenly, ROBERT PATTINSON enters. The paleness of him and his family members reach blinding levels while the squeals in the movie theater reach deafening levels.
KRISTEN STEWART
Who's the albino Wolverine?
ANNA KENDRICK
Oh, him? That's Robert. He's universally acknowledged as the hottest boy in school but he doesn't date anyone because no girl is good enough for him.
KRISTEN STEWART
No girl is good enough for him? Man, the excuses closested homosexuals come up with these days...
KRISTEN sits next to ROBERT, who nearly vomits in his mouth and leaves school for a week. Eventually, he returns.
KRISTEN STEWART
Hey, where did you go? Because you are exceedingly mean to me, I find myself attracted to you.
ROBERT PATTINSON
Sounds like textbook daddy issues, you fat cow.
KRISTEN STEWART
(swoon)
ROBERT PATTINSON
You have a bright career as a stripper ahead of you.
ROBERT and KRISTEN continue not quite interacting with each other and having no chemistry what-so-ever.
KRISTEN STEWART
Hey, your eyes are changing color from gorgeous to ultragorgeous. What's going on?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Alright, you got me. I was acting like a jerk because I secretly totally love you.
KRISTEN STEWART
Of course! This also explains why the captain of the football team always acted like he hated Stephanie Meyer!
ROBERT PATTINSON
There's more. I want to eat you.
KRISTEN STEWART
Holy @#%^, really? I need to go home and do some waxing first, but...
ROBERT PATTINSON
No, I mean literally eat you. I'm a vampire.
KRISTEN STEWART
Hmm. The only way I will believe you is if you carry me up a mountain using special effects from the 70s.
He DOES.
KRISTEN STEWART
You really are a vampire! Does that mean that garlic, stakes, and sunlight kill you?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Don't be stupid. All of that lore is far too interesting for this movie. Being a vampire just means I get superpowers. It's like being Spider-Man, but sexier. Also, I sparkle in the sunlight.
KRISTEN STEWART
So that's why why your family moved here, because it's always overcast!
ROBERT PATTINSON
That's right everyone, this whole movie is a two-hour-long setup for a joke about the Pacific Northwest.
KRISTEN STEWART
So if you're immortal, how old are you anyway?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Over a hundred, but to be fair I've spent most of that time working on my hair.
The two of them GAZE into each other's eyes with UNCOMFORTABLY HUGE CLOSEUPS for 80% of the rest of the movie.
INT. KRISTEN'S BEDROOM
KRISTEN wakes up to find ROBERT watching her sleep.
KRISTEN STEWART
Holy $%^&*ing @#$%! If you weren't so hot I'd have you arrested! How long have you been doing this?
ROBERT PATTINSON
2 months.
KRISTEN STEWART
But I've only lived here one month according to the script.
ROBERT PATTINSN
Yeah, the script was written in six weeks. Don't get hung up on #$%^ like that.
KRISTEN STEWART
Oh. Well, as long as you're here I guess we could have sex.
ROBERT PATTINSON
No, I can't have sex with you! I'd be unable to control myself! I'd bite you and turn you into a vampire! Also I ejaculate boiling venom, so I'd need to wear like fifty condoms.
KRISTEN STEWART
Wait, we can't have sex at all, and you can't suck my blood? How can you make a vampire movie without anyone sucking blood?
ROBERT PATTINSON
It's alright, I think this movie already has more than enough sucking.
INT. BILLY BURKE'S HOUSE
BILLY BURKE is cleaning his gun and drinking a beer while listening to country music.
KRISTEN STEWART
Dad, my boyfriend is coming over to pick me up. Try not to get dork all over him.
BILLY BURKE
Okay, let me meet him after the movie makes the film industry's ten billionth joke about protective fathers disliking boyfriends.
KRISTEN STEWART
Alright. Oh, and also: He's a 100-year-old vampire, don't say anything racist about vampires, okay?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Hello, sir. It's a pleasure to meet you, Kristen has said absolutely nothing about you because you're so lame.
BILLY BURKE
So I hear you're a 100-years-old. And interested in my 17-year-old daughter. So, mathematically that's like, what, a 40-year-old dating a 6-year-old?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Ummmmmmmm...
BILLY BURKE
Yeah, so my friend Chris Hansen would like you to have a seat right over here.
KRISTEN STEWART
Dad, you're embarrassing me almost as much as my acting! I'm just going over to his house to have dinner with his family, I'll be back before 11. Unless the ravenous vampires murder me, of course.
BILLY BURKE
Alright, just bring this pepper spray with you. It's literally the very least I can do to offer it to my teenage daughter.
KRISTEN STEWART
Daaaaad! Stop being such a loser, I don't need this!
BILLY BURKE
Really? Weren't you almost raped by four guys earlier in the movie?
KRISTEN STEWART
Yeah but I have a BOYFRIEND now, which means I no longer have to be independent or physically capable of doing anything on my own. GOD!
ROBERT and KRISTEN go to visit ROBERT'S FAMILY MANSION in the middle of the woods, because of course the FANTASY MALE should be rich, too.
INT. GLASS MANSION
KRISTEN meets ROBERT'S VAMPIRE FAMILY.
KRISTEN STEWART
Jesus, this place is paler than an Anne Rice book signing event. At least it doesn't smell as bad.
PETER FACINELLI
Welcome to our ridiculously expensive home. I'm the father figure of this family because I'm the one who turned them all into vampires. There's something disturbing about the idea that I've only turned teenagers into vampires, but let's ignore that.
KRISTEN STEWART
Wow, you guys are so close. What keeps this family together so well?
PETER FACINELLI
Funny you should ask. Let me tell you about Count Joseph Von Smith. One day a vampire named Moronula appeared to him and told him to find these golden stakes buried in a coffin...
NIKKI REED
Knock it off, dad. So, Kristen, there must be something really special about you for Robert to take such a liking to you and risk the lives of his entire family. Tell us about yourself.
KRISTEN STEWART
Me? Oh, no. I'm just a hollow placeholder for all of the teenage girls in the audience to project their personalities onto. I have none of my own whatsoever.
NIKKI REED
Oh. Well what do you like to do for fun?
KRISTEN STEWART
Mostly smoke pot on my porch in front of the paparazzi. What about you guys?
PETER FACINELLI
Vampire baseball.
KRISTEN STEWART
Ha ha, no seriously.
PETER FACINELLI
Really. Vampire baseball. We even have uniforms. Want to come watch us play?
KRISTEN STEWART
Actually, as it happens, the very last thing on Earth I or any other sane person would want to watch is vampire baseball, but go ahead.
They play vampire baseball, which looks exactly as stupid as it sounds to all of the males in the audience. The game attracts the attention of some EVIL VAMPIRES, who actually do the type of shit vampires are supposed to, like fucking kill boring humans. One of them, CAM GIGANDET, notices KRISTEN.
CAM GIGANDET
Oh man, that looks great, are you gonna finish that?
ROBERT PATTINSON
Stay away from her or my family will have to kill you. Specifically, we'll have to hiss at you like fifth graders pretending to be Dracula, and then kill you.
CAM GIGANDET
Murder, eh? That's one hell of a family activity. My family usually just plays Scrabble.
PETER FACINELLI
The family that slays together, stays together.
CAM tries to eat KRISTEN, a poorly directed action sequence ensues, and eventually he is defeated.
PETER FACINELLI
Kristen's been bitten! She'll be turned into a vampire within minutes unless you suck the venom out! I can't do it for some reason or another.
ROBERT PATTINSON
Since the whole novel this is based on is just Mormon propaganda for abstinence and bloodsucking is a metaphor for sex, what exactly is this advocating?
PETER FACINELLI
Look, all I know is that even though it's going to be REALLY HARD, you're just going to have to PULL OUT of her before CLIMAX. The climax of the movie, I mean.
He DOES. It's very DISSATISFYING.
INT. HOSPITAL
KRISTEN wakes up in the hospital, and ROBERT wakes up after her.
KRISTEN STEWART
I thought vampires never slept.
ROBERT PATTINSON
Script. Six weeks. Remember?
KRISTEN STEWART
Right. Well, thanks for saving my life after endangering it by inviting me into your dangerous world. Let's go to the prom together.
ROBERT PATTINSON
Actually, I think it would be better if we broke up. To keep you safe.
KRISTEN STEWART
From vampires?
ROBERT PATTINSON
No, from being typecast forever after this series is done. I'm screwed, but it's not too late for you.
KRISTEN STEWART
No. No, you can't ever leave me. Never. No matter what. We must be together forever and ever and ever.
ROBERT PATTINSON
Holy #@$%, you're a clingy psychotic #$%^&. Maybe we have a realistic high school relationship after all.
They stay together and go to the PROM.
KRISTEN STEWART
I want you to make me a vampire so that I can be with you, even if it means sacrificing my own life as a mortal.
ROBERT PATTINSON
So, the next generation of young women are currently flocking to see a female lead starring in a movie by a female director based on a bestselling book by a female author, and in this movie the main character wants to become completely submissive and self-sacrificing for a male.
KRISTEN STEWART
I love you. Put a baby in me.
ROBERT PATTINSON
At least the other three books can't possibly be more misogynistic and depressing.
They ARE.
END
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posted on
09/12/2009 4:43:23 AM PDT
by
Renderofveils
(My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
To: Sherman Logan
Sorry, was getting tired of the abuse and misread your post.
45
posted on
09/12/2009 4:52:18 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: snugs
I think you are actually being rather naive, how many parents really know what their teens are doing 24 hours a day.
My point exactly. If the parents refuse to except the responsibilty of raising their children then someone else will. The Government or Hollywood.
To answer your question quite a few. Because the parents are involved in their childs life, because they do accept that responsibility.
On the other hand I know many that have no clue what their children are doing or or when they are doing it.
Still we have a choice. Which group do we want to be in?
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posted on
09/12/2009 4:55:10 AM PDT
by
SECURE AMERICA
(Proud to have made Communist Leader Obama's hit list at flag@whitehouse.gov)
To: myknowledge
The sky is falling the sky is falling. Daytime soaps have more sex than children books.
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posted on
09/12/2009 4:57:07 AM PDT
by
bikerman
(Buck Farack)
To: SECURE AMERICA
There is a choice because outside school and libaries kids can and still read and watch what they can get away with but why encourage it.
I see it as a moral responsibility for Christians to stand up for what is right not hide behind freedom of choice.
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posted on
09/12/2009 5:12:44 AM PDT
by
snugs
((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
To: RowdyFFC
I agree with your post. The Twilight books are in the middle school libraries in our school district. Kids are waiting in line to check them out. They find the stories well written and suspenseful.
To: myknowledge
I've read reviews of the Stephanie Meyers books saying they're too CHASTITY ORIENTED. The kids are terribly passionately attracted to each other, emotionally overwrought and so forth, but they are worried about consequences, about responsibilities, about right and wrong, about their spiritual well-being, and don't actually have intercourse until they're married.
Some feminists think it's disguised Mormon propaganda.
I kid you not.
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posted on
09/12/2009 6:31:26 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
To: myknowledge
There’s a big difference between requiring the book to be part of the classwork and banning it from the library and personal backpacks. Keep the library fully stocked and teach your kids to chose good books. Teaching the kids that censureship is okay is a lesson unto itself. I’m more concerned with the outward display of Obama-love in the classroom than my daughter reading Twilight from the library.
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posted on
09/12/2009 6:32:36 AM PDT
by
kdot
To: BlueStateBlues
The publisher loves this, since it means now more kids will buy the books rather than borrowing from the library.
52
posted on
09/12/2009 6:34:28 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: myknowledge
Read them .....no big deal ....Disney movies have similar fantasy and occult themes.
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posted on
09/12/2009 6:41:14 AM PDT
by
badpacifist
("Blessings come from God and He don't bless what he is against" ...Mrs Ray Charles)
To: Abundy
I must admit I haven’t actually read this particular series, but your description makes my point for me.
Traditionally, vampires are selfish, arrogant people who are so scared of dying that they sacrifice their blessed humanity for “eternal life”, which they get by taking from other people. Of course, immortality at such a price is effectively eternal misery, but they are too proud and frightened to admit that.
Modern vampires on the other hand, are NEVER that. They are all “misunderstood”. They never drink Human blood - they have supplies of pigs blood in the fridge. They worry about their “status”. They decry the “prejudice” of their Human neighbours, who disgustingly are worried about living next to an inhuman being that requires daily doses of blood and vaporises if touched by sunlight. Don’t get me wrong, the first time this “role-reversal-see-it-from-the-vampires point-of-view” was done, it was really clever. Now it’s just becoming silly. If every story on a particular subject is done “differently”, then very soon the “different” approach will become the standard one. Why do you think the Indans are never the bad guys in westerns any more?
Does this matter? I think it does. Alright, this approach challenges our perceptions of right and wrong, good and evil - and that’s fine - except that it does it by completely blurring or reversing what good and evil are, which leads to a lot of confusion. On a more practical level, because there really is evil in this world, it’s unrealistic. Eventually even the dimmest filmgoer or reader realises that and switches off. Have you noticed how few westerns are being made these days?
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posted on
09/12/2009 7:00:10 AM PDT
by
Vanders9
To: Mrs. Don-o
The problem with most reviews these days is that reviewers almost always have an agenda themselves. You rarely get an honest review based on quality of writing, you get a feminist review, or a marxist review, or a Christian review, or a post-modern review, or whatever. In the welter of claims and counter-claims, judgements and propoganda, factors like the intention of the author, or even the actual experience of the reader, are dismissed as being almost irrelevent (by experts).
In the final analysis, the only true measure of the quality of a book, film, painting or any other piece of creativity is public appeal.
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posted on
09/12/2009 7:04:54 AM PDT
by
Vanders9
To: trumandogz
I’m an elementary school librarian and I refuse to add these books to the collection. It is not on religious grounds....but my students range in age from 4-11. Are the books appropriate for this age range? Not in my opinion. If my older kids want to read these, they can purchase or check them out in middle school where they are available.
I have to make decisions every day about what belongs in our collection. Twilight books are not the only books I pass on — I have to pick titles that best fit the age of our school community.
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posted on
09/12/2009 7:09:56 AM PDT
by
BelleAl
To: snugs
I can understand the concept where certain people fear not their own children being exposed to the material but those who do not have parents who understand what is out there and maybe cause distress or put ideas into their childrens minds that are not desireable. Too many people trust that if it in a school or a library it is OK. Also there are parents are so liberal minded anything goes and freedom of expression is everything whether it is good or bad. Okay, so would you like to control what the children of liberals or those you deem as "not responsible" read, or would you like The Nanny State to decide what these children can or cannot read?
Who is going to protect these children.
How about their parents and not you or your Nanny State.
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posted on
09/12/2009 1:24:42 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: driftdiver
Were they that mature at 10 years old? At ten years old, they were mature enough to understand that the nanny state and the nanny state sycophants should not control what they could and could not read.
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posted on
09/12/2009 1:27:57 PM PDT
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: myknowledge
But teachers addressed the primary students because they were concerned they might be too young to deal with the adult themes. No duh.
I get a kick out of not allowing younger kids to read these books described as the books being "ripped from the shelves". LOL.
In truth, some responsible adults (teachers, librarians, students) are choosing to bar some books from elementary shelves. Censorship? Please. This is part of their job.
It's the RESPONSIBILITY of teachers to filter through what they believe to be inappropriate material. Most kids in 5-6 grade MAY be ready to process the themes. There's a whole lot of younger kids in the school who are likely not. Perhaps the adults in charge would rather favor books without a supernatural theme as well in favor of themes that concentrate on the here and now and real life. That's their choice...to not favor the fantasy-themed best-sellers. So what?
Can't believe many Freepers don't get this. Should they put "Sex and the City" videos on the shelves as well? Is not allowing the show to be available in schools "censorship"?
To: trumandogz
“At ten years old, they were mature enough to understand that the nanny state and the nanny state sycophants should not control what they could and could not read.”
Pretty remarkable, the majority of 10 yr olds only know that their parents say such things. Not the why or really what a nanny state is. Most 10 yr olds still have a ‘nanny’ at home and generally don’t know any different.
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posted on
09/12/2009 1:35:09 PM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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