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Gold ends above $1,000 for first time since Feb
AP ^ | 09/11/09

Posted on 09/11/2009 5:57:01 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Gold ends above $1,000 for first time since Feb

By TIM PARADIS, AP Business Writer

Fri Sep 11, 4:14 pm ET

NEW YORK – Gold prices settled over the $1,000 mark Friday for the first time since February.

The rise in gold came as the dollar hit new lows for the year against the euro. Investors buy into gold in part as a safeguard against inflation.

Gold for December delivery rose $9.60 to settle $1,006.40 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange. It was the highest close for gold since Feb. 20. On Aug. 27, gold finished below the $950 mark.

December silver rose 3 cents to $16.70 an ounce. Copper and aluminum lost ground.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1000dollars; bhoeconomy; gold; third100days
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While Americans are chasing gold futures or certificates, Asians are getting hold of real physical gold.

I wonder what would happen if Americans are totally free to possess gold.

Local report here says that a bride went to jewelry store to buy a gold ring, and was shocked to find that local gold price skyrocketed.

1 posted on 09/11/2009 5:57:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/11/2009 5:57:34 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“I wonder what would happen if Americans are totally free to possess gold.”

Do you mean free to afford it? It’s not illegal to own gold. Yet. ;)


3 posted on 09/11/2009 6:06:27 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Isn't there some kind of limit or restriction imposed?
4 posted on 09/11/2009 6:11:47 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

When were gold restrictions lifted?

December 31, 1974 ended the era of private U.S. gold ownership restrictions which had begun in 1933. As of January 1, 1975, U.S. citizens were again free to own gold in any form, including bullion, and in any amount that they can afford, without restrictions or any federal ‘reporting’ of those holdings.

http://www.onlygold.com/faqcenterpages/faq_legalissuesandgold.htm


5 posted on 09/11/2009 6:16:02 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’d be a tad leary buying gold at these prices and I hate to think of the economic circumstances that would continue to drive the gold prices up. It’s fallen from some pretty lofty highs in the past. I’d rather be cautious than wrong in thinking it would continue to climb like the housing bubble.


6 posted on 09/11/2009 6:23:26 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
OK, nice to hear that it was lifted long ago. I thought it is still in effect. Some people here accuse me of some kind of gold bug. However, it is apparent that I don't even know essential fact for gold ownership, which means I don't own gold or peddling gold.

My little ignorance ended up clearing me of being a gold shill.:-)

7 posted on 09/11/2009 6:24:02 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: umgud
If dollar is keep going down, fundamental is in place to further rise of gold. All those trillions of dollars of bailout money and stimulus package would only drive up gold price. Of course, there would be a bubble in the process. However, as long as dollar continues to be debased, this trend will continue.
8 posted on 09/11/2009 6:28:25 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: umgud

I think gold is in a bubble. But I’m not bold enough to short it.


9 posted on 09/11/2009 6:32:35 PM PDT by Pelham (Obammunism)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Correction

If dollar is keeps going down

10 posted on 09/11/2009 6:35:57 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: Pelham
But I’m not bold enough to short it.

You are a wise man. Many gold mining companies have, in effect, shorted gold by selling a huge amount of futures. Barrick Mining, for instance, is in what might be called technical default, as instead of delivering gold on expiring contracts, they are paying off in dollars (raised by selling stock). Otherwise they would have had to buy gold on the spot market and send the price to the moon.

If anyone has paper gold positions, you might consider physical possession as there might be a short squeeze or another derivative flap ahead.

11 posted on 09/11/2009 6:56:33 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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The Barrick default n its hedgeing is a wake up call. Jeeze its Barrick, Barrick doesn’t have the gold.


12 posted on 09/11/2009 7:05:57 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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I believe our economy is going to further decline where purchasing basic food consumes more and more of the available income. I just wonder how much gold will be worth then when everyone is just trying to get some bread.

I would love to invest in gold if I could but I just don’t see how in a crashed economy you take your gold coins down to the market and get your needed goods.


13 posted on 09/11/2009 7:07:57 PM PDT by RushingWater
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How would you know if any of the gold you buy in physical form, is actually all gold?

I remember during the last gold run, reading about people who thought they were buying gold ingots and coins, only to find out they were gold plated silver or lead.

Almost any metal can be “gold plated” to look like the real thing.

I’d think the only way to really know would be to cut it in half.

Think I’ll stick to GLD.


14 posted on 09/11/2009 7:32:52 PM PDT by OhhTee5
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To: All

By the way, for those who are interested in shorting gold, there are ETF’s that do that for you.

Ticker symbol DZZ for example is a double short on gold.

I think DGZ is a single short.

Check them out first before using them if interested. You can check them on Yahoo.Finance.com or www.ETFCONNECT.com.

Nice thing about a double short is you can simple use 1/2 the funds you were planning on, to get the same hedge.

Food (or gold) for thought.


15 posted on 09/11/2009 7:37:46 PM PDT by OhhTee5
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To: OhhTee5
How would you know if any of the gold you buy in physical form, is actually all gold?

You could determine the volume of the item in question and then weigh it.

Just saying.

16 posted on 09/11/2009 7:48:37 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: RushingWater

Private barter perhaps? At least a store of wealth. You won’t be able to do much of that with useless 5 Quintillion dollar bills.


17 posted on 09/11/2009 7:56:51 PM PDT by CaptainCS
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". . . Asians are getting hold of real physical gold. "

The ChiComs doubled their gold reserves to 1054 tonnes in the last couple of years.

1054 tonnes = about $37 billion at $1000/oz.

ChiComs would need another $200-$300 billion of gold reserves to approach US reserves at 11,000 tonnes, Eurozone 8,000 tonnes.

Then about 10-15% of hard currency reserves would gold.

They could just float their Renminbi and make it a hard currency and all would be fixed.

yitbos

18 posted on 09/11/2009 11:40:06 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: Oatka
"If anyone has paper gold positions, you might consider physical possession as there might be a short squeeze or another derivative flap ahead."

Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports that the ChiCom buying is scheduled to last for quite a while, but only on dips. He says the price should not get a chance to fall too far.

yitbos

19 posted on 09/11/2009 11:48:06 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: OhhTee5

You can buy gold coins (American Eagles for example) from established coin dealers (retailers). That way you have the coins in your possession.


20 posted on 09/11/2009 11:56:48 PM PDT by elizabethgrace ((from Drudge) DOW on 9/11/09 = 9605 ----- DOW on 9/10/01 = 9605)
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