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Yes, President Obama: You Lie
IsraPundit ^ | 9/11/09 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 09/11/2009 1:40:58 PM PDT by Winged Hussar

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) should not have exclaimed "You lie!" in the middle of Barack Obama's speech on health care. ...However, although Rep. Wilson should not have said what he said when he said it, it needed to be said. The President of the United States told a blatant half-truth during his speech when he said people would be free to keep their existing health insurance, while he refused to take responsibility for his contribution to the perception that his health care plan includes the creation of "death panels" that would ration or terminate medical treatment for senior citizens and other forms of Lebensunwertes Leben (life unworthy of living).

You told a half-truth, Barry. Let us repeat this: you told a half-truth. This is what the President told the Congress and the nation Wednesday night. It is true that, under House Bill 3200, you can keep your existing insurance plan under a grandfather clause. You can't, however, change it to a plan that does not include government-mandated features you might not want or need. Barack Obama has repeatedly omitted this inconvenient little fact from his public statements, thus making him a proven teller of half-truths, and therefore for all practical purposes a blatant liar, just as Rep. Wilson said.

    [Obama] First, if you are among the hundreds of millions of Americans who already have health insurance through your job, or Medicare, or Medicaid, or the VA, nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. (Applause.) Let me repeat this: Nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.
Here is the actual content of HR 3200, straight from the U.S. Government.

(Excerpt) Read more at israpundit.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: joewilson; obama; peopleofthelie; youlie


1 posted on 09/11/2009 1:40:58 PM PDT by Winged Hussar
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To: Winged Hussar

The President of the United States told a blatant half-truth during his speech when he said people would be free to keep their existing health insurance,

Oh stop already.
a half truth?
Either he LIED or he did not lie.
This PC nonsense is long past its expiration point..


2 posted on 09/11/2009 1:48:22 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Proud to have made Communist Leader Obama's hit list at flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: Winged Hussar

3 posted on 09/11/2009 1:49:37 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Winged Hussar
At Bush's 2006 State of the Union speech, Democrats interrupted his speech to applaud and cheer their obstruction of Bush's proposal to reform Social Security.

http://mfile.akamai.com/5913/wmv/whitehouse.download.akamai.com/5913/2006/01/20060131-10.v.asx

Fast-forward to about 45:50 to see it. And at 46:05, take careful note of who you see in the lower left corner of the frame.

Hint: he didn't vote "present" this time.

4 posted on 09/11/2009 1:50:07 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: Winged Hussar

5 posted on 09/11/2009 1:50:31 PM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: Winged Hussar

No one should get a pass when they lie. That is part of what is wrong with this country. Our politicians look us right in the eye, and tell a blatant lie, and if we call them on it, they feel insulted. Obama insulted all of us with his out and out lie, and deserved what he got...and more.


6 posted on 09/11/2009 1:52:07 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Winged Hussar

Liar Liar Liar Why mince the word?


7 posted on 09/11/2009 1:52:16 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Winged Hussar
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8 posted on 09/11/2009 1:56:46 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: Winged Hussar

9 posted on 09/11/2009 2:07:30 PM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Winged Hussar
Olberfurher called Wilson **wrong** (as well as other things) regarding his outburst during Obozo's speech, citing section 246 as proof Wilson lied about Obozo lying.

However, Section 202 suggests a different story. 246 states, "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.".

Section 202 speaks to "exchange eligible individuals". 246 states no federal funding for affordability credits for undocumented aliens, while 202 has no language referring to undocumented aliens.

Section 202 does state, "all individuals are eligible to obtain coverage through enrollment in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan offered through the Health Insurance change unless such individuals are enrolled in another qualified health benefits plan or other acceptable coverage." So, who was lying here? Lawyers wrote HR3200. Lawyers in D.C. are known for their ambiguity when writing these bills. Obozo and Olberfurher think the American people are ingnoramouses and unable to do research for themselves. To use Olberfurher's own words, they are **wrong**.

10 posted on 09/11/2009 2:11:17 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Oh stop already.
a half truth?
Either he LIED or he did not lie.
This PC nonsense is long past its expiration point..

Exactly my response... He has NO INTEGRITY.


11 posted on 09/11/2009 2:23:02 PM PDT by NEMDF
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I agree. No matter what you call it, he deliberately tried to deceive us. He’s not to be trusted.....with anything


12 posted on 09/11/2009 2:41:53 PM PDT by Helotes
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To: Winged Hussar

I can’t get Reba’s song, ‘You Lie’ out of my head.


13 posted on 09/11/2009 2:43:51 PM PDT by imskylark (To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society. -Teddy Roosevelt)
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