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Chrysler's Railroad: Why is CNN,ABC,CBS,NBC so quiet on this?
Craig's List ^ | 8 Sep 2009 | Staff

Posted on 09/11/2009 12:40:50 PM PDT by IbJensen

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To: I Drive Too Fast

This sounds like something the Obama administration would do.


61 posted on 09/11/2009 2:22:54 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: maine-iac7
This may be something that could be classified as an unintentional conspiracy.

Who matters most to whom, UAW or Car Dealerships.

Sure as hell doesn't make it right!

62 posted on 09/11/2009 2:27:20 PM PDT by right way right
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To: maine-iac7

I don’t take snopes as gospel. I think they have a pretty strong liberal bias. Could just be me.


63 posted on 09/11/2009 2:41:53 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Never let a good crisis go to waste.)
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To: IbJensen

“By the way, Rattner is under investigation for a multi-million dollar pay-to-play investment bank scandal in New York. Uh-oh! But, we’re certain that had nothing to do with his resignation. And, according to several news sources out there, there are rumors he’s being investigated for what could be pay-to-play scandal involving the closing of Chrysler and GM dealerships.”

Rattner appears to another posterboy for my 2009 tagline.


64 posted on 09/11/2009 2:45:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: IbJensen

"Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself!" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate!

Please check my 2009 tagline.

65 posted on 09/11/2009 2:46:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: IbJensen
And, according to several news sources out there, there are rumors he's being investigated for what could be pay-to-play scandal involving the closing of Chrysler and GM dealerships.

It is just the way Chicagoland corruption works.

I wonder what percentage 0bama got?

66 posted on 09/11/2009 3:03:44 PM PDT by TYVets (Let’s Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: autumnraine

“Oh, and if someone wonders how I became ‘friends’ with so many ‘liberals’, they weren’t until Obama. I don’t even think they fit the definition now, but they are under the spell of the MSM and don’t get but the snippet/news bite information. I try and explain that you have to go to certain places to find out the truth and they scoff and say “wouldn’t the ‘certain places’ have more of a reason to lie than the evening news?” I remember my blood running cold to find out my very very religious aunt and uncle voted for Obama. They pastor a church and have for 50 years!!!”

Out here in Californicator land we have seen a few 0b0z0 voters and were surprised at first.

Looking back at the people who crossed over to vote 0b0z0 there were a few common links.

1. Rich white guilt. These are the people who go to an expensive Lobster feed to raise money for the poor. Bid a thousand $’s for a bottle of wine at a charity wine auction, because they and their family have used illegals as servants for decades.

2. New Greenies hoping to cash in on the Greenmovement Tidal Wave bought in by Obozo. We have a younger relative and his wife who fit into that category. The wife has basically been written off by her parents and siblings. He is having a hard time at family functions. She was invited to her folks for any holiday since the election.

3. Religious White quilt. People like your uncle and aunt.

4. Independents tired of Republicans, who thought Ob0z0 was great. They have been the first to fall out of the Ob0z0 cult (all age groups).

5. Closet abortion lovers. Sarah Palin made these A$$holes expose themselves.

6. Those, who suffered from Bush hatred syndrome or BDS.

7. Those, who got hypnotized by 0b0z0 and really looked forward to his “Change”.

8. The over 65 group, who wanted a free lunch, more social security payments and better Medicare. Some of these people were independents, and now they are scared what might happen to them.


67 posted on 09/11/2009 3:10:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: autumnraine

Yeah, I knew it looked like an article that was written before. I just did not have time to check the facts with the other objects I was juggling at the time.

And since I am somewhat of a WJR-Detroit/JP McCarthy/Frank Beckman person - I am very interested in this.

Grew up listening to the Great Voice of the Great Lakes. Car biz soaks in.


68 posted on 09/11/2009 3:19:58 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: IbJensen

SCOTUS better brush up for this one.


69 posted on 09/11/2009 3:34:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bencarter
...this snopes has been debunked
There, I fixed it.
70 posted on 09/11/2009 3:38:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Rebelbase; bencarter; IbJensen
Thank you for debunking this.

IbJensen wrote:
Now just a minute here! You are you going to believe? The MSM, Barry Barack Soretoes Obama or your lying eyes?
Note the links to snopes.com

There were a couple of things that threw up red flags for me.

First, the ownership percentages looked wrong. Though combining the UAW with the US Government does get you over the 50% mark (actually the UAW owns over 50%). When I read it before, I was in a big hurry, and it appeared to me to suggest that the government alone had a controlling interest. I knew that was absolutely wrong.

The second thing that didn’t pass the smell test was the entire concept that car dealers contributed to the Obama campaign. I was in the car business through September of 2008 (as a parts department manager). I know several dealers personally, and know of several dozen more through various industry connections. I don't know (or even know of) a single dealer who would have donated to Barrack Obama’s campaign. That part just sounded entirely wrong. In my experience, if only Obama contributors were allowed to keep their Chrysler dealership franchises, there would be fewer than a dozen Chrysler dealerships in the entire country today.

71 posted on 09/11/2009 4:03:11 PM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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maine-iac7 wrote:
A TOTAL list of Chrysler/GM dealerships and their party affiliations needs to be looked to see if the same ratio - (in this case 787 republican donors to ONE dem) holds true company wide...
I was in the auto dealership business, ultimately as a department manager in fixed operations (I was never involved directly in selling cars, but rather in parts and service). The only part of that ratio that looks off by a little bit would be the Obama side. I think the Obama support looks overstated, perhaps by one donor.

This was debunked by Snopes.

72 posted on 09/11/2009 4:08:47 PM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: IbJensen

The Republicans are hamstrung for now. But when they return to owning the Congress or Senate, do you really think they will investigate this? No. Because they are spineless wimps.

Real men would investigate and jail whoever is involved in this intentional corruption.


73 posted on 09/11/2009 7:10:31 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 50... 49... 48...)
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To: Grampa Dave

You know your liberals. That’s one insightful explanation.


74 posted on 09/11/2009 7:10:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (ACORN offers help to hide child sex slaves - and tells the MSM they're "performance artists"....)
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To: Grampa Dave

I know a couple who have CNN on all day... they were ignorant before CNN.


75 posted on 09/11/2009 7:34:47 PM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: lonestar

If they watch CNN all day, they are now dangerous and ignorant.


76 posted on 09/12/2009 7:58:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: GOPJ

These are/were people, who claimed not to be liberal until they became 0b0z0bots.


77 posted on 09/12/2009 8:01:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Grampa Dave
LOL - You're right, gramps. Correction:You know your "temporary neuvo liberals" ...
78 posted on 09/12/2009 8:14:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (ACORN offers help to hide child sex slaves - and tells the MSM they're "performance artists"....)
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To: GOPJ

I’m 70, and my trophy bride will be 70 soon. I have posted in the past about people we knew for decades, who apparently were closet democrats coming out of that closet after retirement. We could never figure that out.

The funniest change deals with one of these “senior” couples. The guy in the last 4-5 years post retirement has become a screaming liberal, and his formerly screaming liberal wife has become an independent and makes fun of 0b0z0, his thugs, Pelosi and Reid and her now liberal husband.

Sad and scary revelations last year with women in their 20-50’s came out when Sarah Palin became our Veep candidate.
Many of these women married to fairly conservative guys would go unhinged, when we talked positively about Sarah. I discussed this on a couple of the Sarah threads last year.

One of our female freepers suggested the women had abortions, had daughters who had abortions or just had girls. She was right on all of the female hate Sarahs we knew out here. One couple in the late 30’s are having a lot of problems with this. He has his own business and is being killed by the 0b0z0 economy and potential taxes and health plan cost increases. He is very outspoken about white guilt + pro abortion pseudo conservatives voting for 0b0z0, and his wife still hates Sarah.

The last situation reminds us of a woman, we knew who had two bumper stickers on her Lexus years ago. One said “Impeach Clinton!”, and the other sticker “Vote Boxer, pro Choice!”

Maybe it is just a Californai thing.


79 posted on 09/12/2009 8:43:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Grampa Dave
I’m 70, and my trophy bride will be 70 soon.

What a beautiful way to start out a post... Congratulations!

More comments later...

80 posted on 09/12/2009 8:59:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (ACORN offers help to hide child sex slaves - and tells the MSM they're "performance artists"....)
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