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"We're pinned down":4 U.S. Marines die in Afghan ambush
McClatchy ^
| Tuesday Sept. 8, 2009
| Jonathan S.Landay
Posted on 09/10/2009 3:32:58 PM PDT by tencole
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To: tencole
Newbee, this has been posted several times by other cut and run loons.
The anti war trolls know there are some on FR who are anti war third party or just don’t have a clue period.
Your aim is to gin up anti war, cut and run on FR
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posted on
09/10/2009 3:59:53 PM PDT
by
SoCalPol
(Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
To: haroldeveryman
Every time I watch the movie Blackhawk Down I want to spit nails.
42
posted on
09/10/2009 4:00:36 PM PDT
by
RobRoy
(The US today: Revelation 18:4)
To: IrishCatholic
You’re absolutely right. This is also the first time in recent memory that I recall our troops did not have the ammo they need to fight - they had to use Willy Pete instead of smoke. No gunships and no smoke? Welcome back Carter...
To: BGHater
You are still wrong.
I'm not talking about strategy, goals, aims, desires, plans, policies, politics, national identities, tribes, allegiances, troop levels, economics, peace, police actions, exit strategies, or ‘victory.’
I'm talking about rules of engagement set up by liberals where four Marines call for artillery support and are told the ROE says they don't qualify under the new guidelines where they might have last month.
44
posted on
09/10/2009 4:04:57 PM PDT
by
IrishCatholic
(No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
To: Allegra
We've got to fight fire with fire.That includes going after the countries that are funding them.
If these ROE came from Petraeus, and I'm not sure they did, his political future is dead as far as I'm concerned.
45
posted on
09/10/2009 4:05:53 PM PDT
by
Night Hides Not
(If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
To: tencole
Obama Killing our Troops! Let them fight why did we build all these sophisticated weapons for?
46
posted on
09/10/2009 4:09:06 PM PDT
by
Cheetahcat
(Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
To: haroldeveryman
Maybe George Will was right.I can't believe it, but I'm siding with Will on Afghanistan. Weakened and politicized ROEs, a corrupt government, and a populace stuck in the Dark Ages, is an equation for disaster.
Allow me to add: a Commander-in-Chief who knows less about military strategy than a buck private on his first day of boot camp. Hell, at least Clinton commanded the Arkansas National Guard as governor.
Do you get the feeling that the bad guys throughout the world are unafraid of the Community Organizer in Chief?
47
posted on
09/10/2009 4:13:12 PM PDT
by
Night Hides Not
(If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
To: SoCalPol
Could you be any more f**king delusional?
Washington is setting the ROE that will prevent any victory whatsoever. The troops are fighting handicapped. It would be different if there was someone like Cheney in the White House who would give theater commanders free rein.
48
posted on
09/10/2009 4:14:37 PM PDT
by
randomhero97
("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
To: RobRoy
That and a few other things, like “the wall” between the CIA and the FBI are what brought Clinton to mind.
To: tencole
I don’t care what the Rules of Engagement are, you aren’t fit to wear the title - United States Marine, if you don’t say my career be damned, I’m not letting a fellow Marine die. I’d gladly make my case to an empaneled jury and even if found guilty, I could live with the consequence knowing I saved the lives of 4 brothers.
50
posted on
09/10/2009 4:16:13 PM PDT
by
rednesss
(fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
To: SoCalPol
Cut and run? No, this is all about the ROE’s and McChrystal’s lame ass decisions which are leading to our guys getting killed. If you are going to have boots on the ground over there, for heaven’s sake, let them defend themselves against terrorists and do their job. If the Obama Administration wants to ‘win hearts and minds’, have them send over missionaries. If they want to win battles, have them send Marines!
Sorry SoCalPol, but you are WAY off on this one.
51
posted on
09/10/2009 4:17:47 PM PDT
by
444Flyer
(May God Bless and protect our Boots on the ground!)
To: rednesss
I have a feeling it’s only going to get worse. I have a feeling political officers aren’t too far down the road to ensure no one strays away.
52
posted on
09/10/2009 4:18:38 PM PDT
by
randomhero97
("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
To: Paperdoll
I do not support these wars any more. Bring the troops home. Their president will not let them fight fairly, bring them home.
No child of mine will fight under leftists.
To: tencole
Relieve the people that denied them air and artillery support. Put them in the front lines with the troops. Let the higher authorities draw the proper conclusions.
To: 444Flyer
SoCalPol knows nothing about the military or war for that matter other than what talking points is handed to him.
For someone that hardcore you would think they would of least served in some capacity.
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posted on
09/10/2009 4:21:01 PM PDT
by
randomhero97
("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
To: Citizen Tom Paine
If the people that denied them air and artillery support had any honor, they’d eat their side arms. Outside, so no one has to clean up the mess.
56
posted on
09/10/2009 4:23:52 PM PDT
by
rednesss
(fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
To: SoCalPol
The anti war trolls know there are some on FR who are anti war third party or just dont have a clue period.
Your aim is to gin up anti war, cut and run on FR.I served 8+ years on active duty (Army - Air Defense Artillery, Platoon Leader, Battalion Staff, Battery Commander, cherry jumper), vote solidly Republican (while holding my nose), and supported our initial actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Call me a supporter of the Powell Doctrine: go in with massive force, and then get the hell out (or stay and hold under the Petraeus Doctrine). These weak Rules of Engagement are only going to kill more Americans than is necessary. I can't believe that Petraeus ordered these ROE's.
I have advised my 20 YO son to avoid the military until Obama and his minions are out of office.
So, which of your groups am I a member of?
57
posted on
09/10/2009 4:24:16 PM PDT
by
Night Hides Not
(If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
To: randomhero97
I'm a unleash all “H” on the enemy if it saves even one Marine’s life...admittedly...I'm biased.;)
58
posted on
09/10/2009 4:25:48 PM PDT
by
444Flyer
(May God Bless and protect our Boots on the ground!)
To: randomhero97
"I have a feeling political officers arent too far down the road to ensure no one strays away."
I would hope that the rate of "friendly fire" incidents would rise in proportion.
59
posted on
09/10/2009 4:27:20 PM PDT
by
rednesss
(fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
To: IrishCatholic
“I'm talking about rules of engagement set up by liberals where four Marines call for artillery support and are told the ROE says they don't qualify under the new guidelines where they might have last month.”
But don't worry about ‘death panels”, the are not specifically mentioned in the the ObamaHealthCare plan...any more than the ROE are mentioned in the Congressional legislation related to authorization of military expenditures and the military hierarchy..
60
posted on
09/10/2009 4:29:26 PM PDT
by
BilLies
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