We’re not going to see eye to eye on this. But make no mistake, forcing a young woman, by the state, to carry the product of an act of violence to term is telling her she HAS no rights. She didn’t ask, nor willfully engage, in behavior that would bring about mutual consent for the creation of a child. You’ve already decided that a fetus that hasn’t reached viability has more rights than an adult woman, who remains at the mercy of her rapist’s actions for at least the next 9 months. I cannot fathom how wrong that is (even if your intentions towards the unborn are honorable). And when I speak of equal, I’m talking equal rights under the law. Men and women are different, but basic rights, and victims rights, should be clear-cut and not unequal. If men could carry children, you better believe they’d have a rape/incest clause.
I am sorry for your loss of your unborn child. As I’ve stated, there is no good outcome in any of this, but if you can convince a woman — willing — not to terminate at the start, go right ahead, kind persuasion isn’t coercion, but I cannot, in this instance, give a wholesale endorsement to the state dictating a woman remain a victim of a crime she did not consent to for 9 months. I put myself in a young woman’s shoes, and my response is, I’d want that reminder of violence, of violation, out of me at once. She needs to decide what is right for her as a victim of crime and not have the state dictate to her what she will do, making her cease to be a free citizen. Totalitarianism is never right, even when done in the righteous cause of morality.
I can see that we aren’t going to agree. A pregnancy is a natural thing that happens not something forced by the state. What the state has done is INFRINGE on the right of the child to life by allowing the mother to kill her child in the womb.
Why do you oppose unlimited access to abortion? And you still haven’t answered the argument about the continued violence against the woman’s body, to her emotions, and to her unborn child. You seem to think that abortion will cure her of the rape. This couldn’t be further from the truth. If abortion were illegal, the woman would still have rights. She wouldn’t and shouldn’t have the right to KILL her child. She would have the right to give the child up for adoption or keep the child. She would have the right to justice under the law against her attacker. She would have the right to receive medical care and counseling. You think because she can’t KILL her baby that she has no right. Do you oppose abortion because it is wrong? Do you oppose abortion because it is the taking of an innocent life? If those are your reasons, then rape doesn’t negate those reasons. If it is wrong, it is wrong. You don’t seem to have a very sure foundation for your ethical standards. AGAIN, abortion is MORE VIOLENCE FOR THE WOMAN. IT WILL DO MORE HARM TO THE WOMAN not to mention the violence and death to her child.
The state is not forcing her to carry the baby, the state is protecting the life of the baby.
You have bought into the pro-abort’s lie to women that once they have the abortion it will solve their problems. That once the baby is removed they can get on with their lives as if none of it happened. That it will bring them “closure”.
It doesn’t work that way. It doesn’t solve their problem, it exacerbates it.
“I put myself in a young woman’s shoes, and my response is, I’d want that reminder of violence, of violation, out of me at once. She needs to decide what is right for her as a victim of crime and not have the state dictate to her what she will do, making her cease to be a free citizen. Totalitarianism is never right, even when done in the righteous cause of morality.”
So if a woman is raped in a shopping mall, does she have the right to burn it down so she doesn’t have a reminder of the violence that happened to her? If you say no, why not? The government should not be able to dictate to her what she will do, or she will cease to be a free citizen! Oh, the shopping mall isn’t hers to do with as she pleases is it. Someone might get hurt if she burns down the shopping mall. Well I guess she can have her abortion because it is HER body and noone is getting hurt. Right? Oh wait, she isn’t aborting herself. The baby inside her ISN’T her body. It is a unique and SEPERATE human being. SHE DOESN’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DESTROY THAT BABY. It may be legal but it isn’t a God given right as described by our Constitution.