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To: fieldmarshaldj

I can see that we aren’t going to agree. A pregnancy is a natural thing that happens not something forced by the state. What the state has done is INFRINGE on the right of the child to life by allowing the mother to kill her child in the womb.

Why do you oppose unlimited access to abortion? And you still haven’t answered the argument about the continued violence against the woman’s body, to her emotions, and to her unborn child. You seem to think that abortion will cure her of the rape. This couldn’t be further from the truth. If abortion were illegal, the woman would still have rights. She wouldn’t and shouldn’t have the right to KILL her child. She would have the right to give the child up for adoption or keep the child. She would have the right to justice under the law against her attacker. She would have the right to receive medical care and counseling. You think because she can’t KILL her baby that she has no right. Do you oppose abortion because it is wrong? Do you oppose abortion because it is the taking of an innocent life? If those are your reasons, then rape doesn’t negate those reasons. If it is wrong, it is wrong. You don’t seem to have a very sure foundation for your ethical standards. AGAIN, abortion is MORE VIOLENCE FOR THE WOMAN. IT WILL DO MORE HARM TO THE WOMAN not to mention the violence and death to her child.


45 posted on 09/11/2009 8:07:48 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; Truthsearcher

I don’t question either of your commitments to the pro-life cause, but I’ve already stated my position many times, and the other point, for which both of you either refuse to see, or worse, find acceptable, that the state would forceably prevent a crime victim from any action other than carrying her rapist’s spawn to full term. That neither of you sees that a state-imposed totalitarian action to impose your personal view of morality in this action, infringing on the rights of a victim, is wrong is deeply troubling.

And for the other point, do I believe termination “solves the problem” ? It solves the punishment of carrying your rapist’s crime to term. Is it a wonderful solution ? Nope, it’s terrible. But the only thing more terrible is telling the victim, a woman, that she hasn’t the right - when she hasn’t done anything wrong to get herself in such a predicament - to decide for herself what to do.

We argue as Conservatives about individual freedom, and you take that away when you put the rights of criminal sperm ahead of a female citizen. And there’s nothing more for me to add here (other than, again, to reemphasize I oppose Roe, I think it was a horrible decision, and that abortions borne of convenience when no criminal behavior resulted in pregnancy, are utterly inexcusable).


50 posted on 09/11/2009 8:36:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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