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1 posted on 09/09/2009 2:51:06 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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" As soon as I sign this bill, it will be against the law for insurance companies to drop your coverage when you get sick or water it down when you need it most "

Two lies here...

1,..the bill is due to kick in in 2013

2...including pre-existing conditions on the insurance companies now will ensure they are all bankrupt by 2013.

55 posted on 09/09/2009 3:21:32 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obama can't unjump the shark)
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Went from 35 minutes to 45 minutes....not including applauses, or BOOS!


57 posted on 09/09/2009 3:22:32 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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"But what we have also seen in these last months is the same partisan spectacle that only hardens the disdain many Americans have toward their own government."

True. Opposition to your "reforms" is becoming a large majority.

58 posted on 09/09/2009 3:22:43 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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Yo Zero, why don't you just buy Cuba, fly those with no insurance there for socialized health care, and leave the best medical care system the world has known alone? It'd be a lot cheaper than the steaming pile you're trying to foist, and it would leave our system intact. Oh, while you're at it, send all the tort lawyers to Cuba too (and maybe Pelosi).

There... problem solved.

59 posted on 09/09/2009 3:22:58 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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This is an f-ing declaration of war!

He's calling for blood, not compromise.

61 posted on 09/09/2009 3:23:30 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"even drug companies"

Bought and paid for by 0bummerCare.

64 posted on 09/09/2009 3:24:11 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"It will provide insurance to those who don’t. And it will slow the growth of health care costs"

This alone is impossible.

66 posted on 09/09/2009 3:25:27 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"Well the time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action."

Yes, Mr. PE Coach. (*snicker*)

69 posted on 09/09/2009 3:26:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have."

"But it coerces the h*ll out of employers to cancel your plan and leave you to the government wolves."

72 posted on 09/09/2009 3:27:26 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"Under this plan, it will be against the law for insurance companies to deny you coverage because of a pre-existing condition. As soon as I sign this bill, it will be against the law for insurance companies to drop your coverage when you get sick or water it down when you need it most. They will no longer be able to place some arbitrary cap on the amount of coverage you can receive in a given year or a lifetime. We will place a limit on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses, because in the United States of America, no one should go broke because they get sick. And insurance companies will be required to cover, with no extra charge, routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms and colonoscopies – because there’s no reason we shouldn’t be catching diseases like breast cancer and colon cancer before they get worse. That makes sense, it saves money"

Each item listed is a budget buster, proving the last point a lie.

74 posted on 09/09/2009 3:29:00 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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This “plan” makes no sense. First he will force premiums to increase as procedures are mandated. Fine when things are going good, but bad in economic downturns. Seems to me that the intent is to bankrupt private insurance.

Then he says that those who do not have insurance can get it in a “marketplace”. How are they going to pay for it if they do not have a jobs, and their priorities shift to housing and food?

Additionally, if this is his “plan”, there is so much left to do, that he is simply saying that we must keep working, but time is short. Why not do a press conference instead of a speech to Congress?


75 posted on 09/09/2009 3:29:05 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (A Blue Dog Democrat is an oxyMoron!)
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"insurance exchange"


76 posted on 09/09/2009 3:30:32 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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To: Beaten Valve

” The time for games has passed “

Games ?
The only games being played are Barry’s daily basketball game and his biweekly golf games.
There is a juvenile , trash talking quality to this mish mash.
The only thing missing is Barry taunting “ The Republicans’ mamas are so ugly...”


77 posted on 09/09/2009 3:30:49 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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"I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it’s better politics to kill this plan than improve it."

BRING IT!

79 posted on 09/09/2009 3:31:53 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"Everyone understands the extraordinary hardships that are placed on the uninsured, who live every day just one accident or illness away from bankruptcy."
80 posted on 09/09/2009 3:32:06 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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"Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing."

A: We'll save the country from Communism.

81 posted on 09/09/2009 3:32:31 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"Everyone understands the extraordinary hardships that are placed on the uninsured, who live every day just one accident or illness away from bankruptcy."

So bankfrupt and shorten the life of those who did buy their insurance. These people are "compassionate" on a micro scale.

82 posted on 09/09/2009 3:32:54 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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Correction in bold:

"Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing. Our deficit will grow more slowly."

83 posted on 09/09/2009 3:33:29 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing. Our deficit will grow."

The CBO says he's lying.

85 posted on 09/09/2009 3:34:10 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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"More businesses will close."

LIAR!!!

Best estimates are that millions of businesses will close under ObummerCare.

88 posted on 09/09/2009 3:35:04 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bummer uses George Orwell's book "1984" as a "How To" guide.)
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