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OBAMA'S BASE ON AFGHANISTAN?
msnbc ^ | 9-08-2009 | Domenico Montanaro

Posted on 09/09/2009 8:36:25 AM PDT by Route797

Several prominent Republicans penned a letter to President Obama, praising him on Afghanistan and asking for more troops.

Signatories include Karl Rove, Sarah Palin, John Podhoretz, Amb. Ryan Crocker, Paul Bremer, Bill Kristol, Randy Scheunemann, Jennifer Rubin, Dan Senor, et al.

It's certainly a case of strange bedfellows. Liberals are moving increasingly against the war in Afghanistan, and American public opinion has indicated a frustration and impatience with the eight-year-old war. This letter is further evidence, as we've written in First Read, that on the war in Afghanistan, this Democratic president is in the odd position of REPUBLICANS being his base of support.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; obama; palin; rove; sarahpalin
It's nice to see some high profile Republicans, in a spirit of bipartisanship, give Obama credit when credit is due.
1 posted on 09/09/2009 8:36:26 AM PDT by Route797
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To: Route797

What is the point of more troops if they are forbidden to shoot back and are getting killed because of Obama’s new rules of engagement?

READ THIS..but take your BP meds first!

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/75036.html


2 posted on 09/09/2009 8:40:06 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Route797

Not this Conservative...I don’t like where this Mutt is taking us at all...no plan, no exit strategy, no clue...


3 posted on 09/09/2009 8:40:28 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in it." - Ted Kennedy (D-HELL)
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To: Route797

Is a Obama-Palin ticket in the works for the Democrats in 2012? If I was Joe Biden, I’d worry about my place on the ballot.


4 posted on 09/09/2009 8:40:57 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Route797
It's nice to see some high profile Republicans, in a spirit of bipartisanship, give Obama credit when credit is due.

No Credit is due. They deserve blame and should be held accountable. Obama, and his pro-war Republican allies, are wasting our tax money in a futile crusade to prop up a corrupt drug warlord who stuffs ballot boxes. In more than 2000 years, nobody has conquered Afghanistan. Nobody.

5 posted on 09/09/2009 8:43:12 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Route797

If this is even CLOSE to being true, Pubbies better back off and back off NOW. bam is intentionally losing this “war.” More Troops, MORE needless American deaths.
No way should we be condoning this.


6 posted on 09/09/2009 8:43:58 AM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Is a Obama-Palin ticket in the works for the Democrats in 2012

LOL. That's about the size of it. The myth that Palin is the polar opposite of Obama is a myth, at least when it comes to their common dedication to a Wilsonian/Neocon foreign policy.

7 posted on 09/09/2009 8:44:38 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Route797

We must finish the job in Afghanistan, even if it takes 30 years. We have to EXPAND the WOT to include Iran and the lawless mountain region of Pakistan. other than this, we cannot win the WOT. Iraq will fall if we do not complete the true mission. I don’t trust Obama to do the job well and he will ultimately be the one who causes the next 9/11.


8 posted on 09/09/2009 8:55:16 AM PDT by FutureRocketMan
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To: Route797

I must include Syria in the list of enemies in the WOT.


9 posted on 09/09/2009 8:55:56 AM PDT by FutureRocketMan
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To: FutureRocketMan
I don’t trust Obama to do the job well and he will ultimately be the one who causes the next 9/11.

If that is the case, why do you want to give him control of more of our blood and treasure for the Afghanistan war (or do you?) He is after all the commander-in-chief.

10 posted on 09/09/2009 9:03:09 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: penelopesire

What is the point of more troops if they are forbidden to shoot back and are getting killed because of Obama’s new rules of engagement? “

“...the insurgents maneuvered to outflank us, we waited more than an hour for U.S. helicopters to arrive,
despite earlier assurances that air cover would be five minutes away.

U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties,

rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers

dug into the slopes and tree lines — despite being told repeatedly that they weren’t near the village.

“We are pinned down.
We are running low on ammo.
We have no air. We’ve lost today,” Marine Maj. Kevin Williams, 37, said ..”

And four more Marines were sacrificed to Barry’s kinder and gentler little face slap at the Taliban.
Other than Sarah Palin, how many of these armchair generals have skin in the game ?
I do.
Do they have any idea what is really going on in Afghanistan !!! ???
The letter disgusts me.
They should have urged an immediate change in the ROEs .
We have a Commander in Chief who is allowing US Marines and soldiers to die needlessly by withholding air support
and forbidding them to respond in the best way to protect themselves and their men.
So Barry can protect
what may or may not be Afghan civilians.
Ordering our troops to stand down when their lives are in mortal danger is unconscionable.
And how that isn’t Dereliction of Duty is beyond me.


11 posted on 09/09/2009 9:10:47 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Route797
Liberals are moving increasingly against the war in Afghanistan,

They never support the war you are in. They will sometimes support some other war, but only as a means of making themselves look credible militarily while undercutting the war you are actually in.

Thus on the eve of war in Iraq, North Korea started threatening war and a long line of Democrats went before the cameras to call for war there, saying that this was the real threat, not Saddam, and demanding action. This, while our troops were gathering on the Kuwaiti border days before crossing over.

And, likewise, all during the Iraq war Democrats have claimed that it was a distraction from the "real" war in Afghanistan. But now that it has become our number one focus (the war in Iraq having been mostly won) they have no further reason to pretend that they support it. They can now revert back to their original position on Afghanistan, which was that it was unwinnable. Remember the early days in Afghanistan, when we were assured over and over that it would be a disaster, the snows of the Hindu Kush would kill us all, and no one had ever beaten the Afghans?

They we rolled into Kabul with a hundred guys.

We won because we didn't fight against the Afghans, we fought with them. And thats how we won in Iraq, and thats how we maintain the victory in Afghanistan. Victories have to be maintained; the maintenance work is as important as the original project.

12 posted on 09/09/2009 9:17:10 AM PDT by marron
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
We have a Commander in Chief who is allowing US Marines and soldiers to die needlessly by withholding air support and forbidding them to respond in the best way to protect themselves and their men.

We've got to get this guy out of there. He is going to make a mess of this war. Democrats should never be trusted with anything military. And this guy is worse than most.

13 posted on 09/09/2009 9:20:58 AM PDT by marron
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To: penelopesire

Thanks for posting. This is disgusting.


14 posted on 09/09/2009 9:27:47 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

You are welcome. It is our moral duty to stand up for our soldiers. Please call the members of the Senate Armed Services Committees and express your outrage that these brave young men were denied air support because of Obama’s ‘new rules’:

http://armed-services.senate.gov/members.htm

http://armedservices.house.gov/


15 posted on 09/09/2009 9:36:12 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

It’s an outrage is what it is. We have a moral obligation to stand up for our brave soldiers. Please call the Armed Serices Committees and let them know you are mad as hell about Obama’s new ROE!

http://armedservices.house.gov/

http://armed-services.senate.gov/members.htm

If we don’t stand up now..it is only going to get worse!


16 posted on 09/09/2009 9:39:27 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Route797
"It's nice to see some high profile Republicans"

Its nice to see some high profile NeoCons

17 posted on 09/09/2009 12:38:23 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Captain Kirk
Tamerlane conquered Afghanistan. He built pyramids of skulls and left a wasteland, and rode off. He did that to his whole empire, really, which he treated throughout his reign as conquered enemy territory. Because it was.

I'm not recommending it as a model. Just making a minor point about history.

18 posted on 09/09/2009 12:46:59 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Captain Kirk

It is the generals that run the war. I trust them. What I don’t trust Obama with is his “exit-strategy” (He would get out before the job is done) and his defunding of our military and intelligence agencies, as well as producing executive orders that make it more difficult and/or illegal to interrogate terrorists.


19 posted on 09/10/2009 5:37:33 AM PDT by FutureRocketMan
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To: FutureRocketMan
It is the generals that run the war. I trust them. What I don’t trust Obama with is his “exit-strategy” (He would get out before the job is done) and his defunding of our military and intelligence agencie

Where is your evidence? The facts indicate that the opposite is true. Since taking office, Obama has increased the numbers of troops in BOTH the Iraq and Afghanistan. He has increased the numbers of total U.S. active military forces as well as the size of the military budget compared to Bush's last budget. If you have specific facts indicating otherwise please provide them.

20 posted on 09/10/2009 5:25:13 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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