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To: trisham

The Israeli Army had women in combat during the 1948-49 Israeli war of independence. What’s wrong with it?


31 posted on 09/09/2009 6:22:02 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge

See post #14.


35 posted on 09/10/2009 3:25:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: myknowledge
The Israeli Army had women in combat during the 1948-49 Israeli war of independence. What’s wrong with it?

And based on lessons learned then, they have NEVER used women in front-line combat again. See post #29.

37 posted on 09/10/2009 5:56:15 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: myknowledge
Additional articles relating to Israeli women in combat:

Debunking the Israeli 'women in combat' myth:

It's time to debunk the myth, once and for all, that Israel's experience with allowing women in combat was successful and, therefore, should be duplicated by the Pentagon. It wasn't successful. It was a disaster by Israel's own admission.

"History shows that the presence of women has had a devastating impact on the effectiveness of men in battle," wrote John Luddy in July 27, 1994, for the Heritage Foundation backgrounder.

"For example, it is a common misperception that Israel allows women in combat units. In fact, women have been barred from combat in Israel since 1950, when a review of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War showed how harmful their presence could be. The study revealed that men tried to protect and assist women rather than continue their attack. As a result, they not only put their own lives in greater danger, but also jeopardized the survival of the entire unit. The study further revealed that unit morale was damaged when men saw women killed and maimed on the battlefield," Luddy said.

See also here

And Heritage Foundation article on women in combat

The only reliable record of women in combat is provided by Israel, a nation whose policy is widely misunderstood. The popular conception is that Israeli women fight alongside men as equals. The truth is that although Israel drafts both women and men for military service, Israel has excluded women from combat units since 1950.

To be sure, female soldiers fought alongside male colleagues in Israel's War of Liberation, which ended in 1948. Because of the problems that this created, Israeli women never again were sent into battle. Explains military historian Edward N. Luttwak of the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Strategic and International Studies, who has written a book about the Israeli military: "Men moved to protect the women members of the unit instead of carrying out the mission of the unit." (Telephone interview, June 10, 1991.) Luttwak adds that women are integrated into the Israeli military at many levels, and conduct most of the training. Women also serve in the Mossad, Israel's elite counter-terrorist force. But women are excluded, Luttwak notes, from infantry and other combat positions based on "the pragmatic experience of 40 years." (Ibid.)


38 posted on 09/10/2009 6:04:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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