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Saudis Eye Buying 72 F-15s
DoD Buzz ^ | September 8th, 2009 | Greg Grant

Posted on 09/08/2009 9:20:34 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Saudis Eye Buying 72 F-15s

By Greg Grant Tuesday, September 8th, 2009 2:33 pm Posted in Air, International, Policy Saudi Arabia is close to placing an order for as many as 72 Boeing F-15 fighter jets, industry and defense sources tell us. Growing security concerns over Gulf neighbor and perennial troublemaker Iran are pushing the Saudis to upgrade their air fleet with a particular emphasis on precision strike aircraft.

The Pentagon is expected to approve the sale as it seeks to counter Iran’s recent break-out as a regional power and quell nervousness among Gulf Arab states troubled by Iran’s growing stockpile of increasingly accurate and long-range ballistic missiles. Foreign military sales are managed through the Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency. DSCA did not respond to an emailed request for information.

The F-15 order would come on top of Riyadh’s purchase of 72 Eurofighter Typhoons in 2006, the first of which are just now being delivered to the Gulf kingdom. The Saudis currently operate around 71 two-seat F-15Ss, a variant of the F-15E Strike Eagle with downgraded avionics, Hughes APG-70 radar and LANTIRN targeting pod. They also operate 66 single-seat F-15Cs and 18 two-seat F-15Ds air-superiority fighters, according to figures compiled by CSIS’s Anthony Cordesman.

I spoke with Boeing’s Patricia Frost, and while she wouldn’t comment specifically about a potential Saudi F-15 buy, she did say Riyadh, along with other potential international customers, has expressed interest in the recently unveiled F-15 “Silent Eagle” variant. A modified F-15E, the Silent Eagle includes radar absorbent materials added to leading edges, canted vertical stabilizers that reduce side radar returns, and weapons carried internally in conformal fuel tanks. The modifications provide some reductions in both the aircraft’s head-on radar signature and also some improvement against air-defenses, she said.

DoD Buzz friend Stephen Trimble has a good write up on the Silent Eagle available here. A flight test demonstration of the Silent Eagle variant is scheduled for early next year, Frost said.

Last year, Riyadh requested 900 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) tail kits, another Boeing product, to convert “dumb” iron bombs into “smart” bombs. The JDAMs were to be carried by the Royal Saudi Air Force F-15S strike jets. The sale got hung up momentarily by Congress, as large weapons sales to Arab states often do, but ultimately went through.

I asked Travis Sharp, a military analyst at The Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation, in Washington, DC, about the likelihood that Congress would interfere with a Saudi order for more F-15s. It was very unlikely, he said. The last time Congress really tried to block a major arms sale was the Saudi AWACS deal back in the 1980s, and even that sale eventually went through.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; f15; saudiarabia

1 posted on 09/08/2009 9:20:34 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

American Jobs! Sell those suckers!


2 posted on 09/08/2009 9:32:43 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

American Jobs! Sell those suckers!

Americans, doing the jobs that others can’t do.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 9:46:01 PM PDT by sawmill trash (Not ALL liberals are rude and arrogant ... some are arrogant and rude)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I hope they buy the F15 S Silent Eagle.

Then OUR AF can purchase some of them as well....


4 posted on 09/08/2009 9:51:30 PM PDT by ASOC (Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I can’t believe we’re selling these goobers JDAMs

Are we selling F-22s to Israel? Why not?


5 posted on 09/08/2009 11:32:50 PM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin's mob minion - Mob Name: Hatman the Hitman)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
F-15 SE Silent Eagle

The only thing missing is the F-15 S/MTD thrust vectoring.


6 posted on 09/09/2009 6:14:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The last time Congress really tried to block a major arms sale was the Saudi AWACS deal back in the 1980s, and even that sale eventually went through.

My how things have changed.
7 posted on 09/09/2009 6:18:57 AM PDT by stentorian conservative (Obama is sinking the boat that was built to stay afloat.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“and weapons carried internally in conformal fuel tanks.”

I assume there are some sort of separate compartments for the weapons and for the fuel...or have they converted perhaps conformal tank shells to carry weaps internally?


8 posted on 09/09/2009 12:26:30 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: stefanbatory

My guess is the latter.


9 posted on 09/09/2009 2:32:53 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: stefanbatory

The conformal fuel tanks carry both fuel and weapons in separate compartments. You wouldn’t want all of the fuel to spill out when you open the weapons door to fire an AMMRAM.


10 posted on 09/09/2009 4:17:01 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

thanks for clarifying what the writer did not...:)


11 posted on 09/09/2009 6:58:12 PM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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