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Democrats losing seniors
The Hill ^ | 09/08/09 | Dick Morris

Posted on 09/08/2009 7:59:32 PM PDT by kingattax

Nowhere is the fallout from Obama’s healthcare proposals more evident than among the elderly, and nothing is more dangerous permanently for the Democratic Party than their increasing disaffection.

A Wall Street Journal poll taken last week reflects a gain by Republicans in party identification, closing the gap from 40-33 in April in favor of the Democrats to a Democratic margin of only 35-34. The data reflects that one-third of this six-point closure of the partisan gap comes from a major shift among the elderly — the only demographic group to have moved dramatically.

In April, the elderly broke evenly on their party identification, with 37 percent supporting each political party. Now the Republicans hold a lead, at 46-33. This 13-point closure among the 14 percent of the vote that is cast by those over 65 represents two of the six points of closure nationally.

No other group changed nearly as much. Neither liberals nor minorities nor any other age group moved nearly as dramatically as did the elderly. The Journal’s pollsters noted that “perhaps the most striking movement is with senior citizens.”

The Democratic Party, led by Obama, is systematically converting the elderly vote into a Republican bastion. The work of FDR in passing Social Security in 1937 and of LBJ in enacting Medicare in 1965 is being undone by the president’s healthcare program. The elderly see his proposals for what they are: a massive redistribution of healthcare away from the elderly and toward a population that is younger, healthier and richer but happens, at the moment, to lack insurance. (Remember that the uninsured are, by definition, not elderly, not young and not in poverty — and if they are, they are currently eligible for Medicare, Medicaid or SCHIP and do not need the Obama program.) The elderly see the $500 billion projected cut in Medicare through the same lens as they viewed Gingrich’s efforts to slice the growth in the program in the mid-1990s.

When the president addresses Congress and the nation on Wednesday night, he will likely indicate a willingness to compromise on aspects of his program. He might attenuate his support of the public option for insurance companies and could soften other aspects of his proposal as it is embodied in the House bill.

But the fundamental equation will not change: He is cutting Medicare spending and using the money to subsidize coverage of those who are now uninsured but cannot afford to pay full premiums. It is this equation that has the elderly up in arms.

And our seniors correctly understand that you cannot extend full health benefits to some portion of the 50 million who live here and lack insurance without causing rationing of existing health services unless you expand the number of doctors and nurses and the amount of medical equipment.

When President Harry Truman first proposed compulsory health insurance in 1949, he coupled his proposal with a big increase in federal aid to medical education. He grasped the fundamental reality that you cannot expand coverage without expanding the number of people who provide the service — unless you are prepared to resort to wholesale rationing.

If Democratic senators and congressmen believe that the elderly will recover from their Republican tendencies by Election Day 2010 — or even by 2012 or 2014 — they misjudge their senior constituents. The elderly are the group most dependent on government services, and they follow politics with an attention that only the needy can give.

They will not forget if the Democrats push through cuts in Medicare and then ask for their support in the next election. Their memories are long and they turn out in huge numbers. Until now, these traits have worked to the advantage of the Democrats. Now they are increasingly likely to deliver Congress and the White House to the Republicans.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; seniors; seniorvote; third100days
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1 posted on 09/08/2009 7:59:32 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

“Sonny, we weren’t born yesterday”


2 posted on 09/08/2009 8:01:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Proud Sarah-Bot.)
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Wait until they find out their healthcare bill will go up to $3800 a year and that is just the opening shot from Obamacare.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 8:01:13 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: kingattax

I’m glad to hear it, however, I’m disappointed in seniors for being stupid enough to fall for democrat tripe for so long!


4 posted on 09/08/2009 8:04:03 PM PDT by albie
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To: kingattax
There are good reason why seniors are concerned about Obama's heath care proposals:

US Senior Citizen Speaks Out on Healthcare Bill - Part 1 .. Part 2

5 posted on 09/08/2009 8:05:37 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: kingattax
One reason Obama wants to brainwash schoolkids.


6 posted on 09/08/2009 8:05:44 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: kingattax
Obama deserves this for rewriting Randy Newman:

"Old People got no reason to live."

7 posted on 09/08/2009 8:05:45 PM PDT by Rocko (Alinsky, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!)
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Seniors have been far too patient with the entrenched Democrats. They need to start turning out in big numbers in the primaries, so these (unprintable words) don’t even get a chance at the brass ring again.


8 posted on 09/08/2009 8:06:24 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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Let’s see - losing the elderly - people who have health insurance, citizens who are “white”, the young who are bucking the liberal establishment... the middle class...


9 posted on 09/08/2009 8:06:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (Who received the Van Jones FBI reports and who over-ruled the findings? fr:thouworm)
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"The Democratic Party, led by Obama, is systematically converting the elderly vote into a Republican bastion"

Now that's change I can believe in.

10 posted on 09/08/2009 8:08:58 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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Preach it, Dickie! I’ve got a year to work on my mother before the midterms.


11 posted on 09/08/2009 8:09:57 PM PDT by GnuHere
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The Dems might not "go nuclear" on healthcare--yet. Not until they've pushed through immigration legislation first.

Granny, you can and WILL be replaced.

12 posted on 09/08/2009 8:12:49 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Get the CZARS together for TAR and FEATHER!)
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The RATS don’t care. They’re getting ready to pass amnesty and reunification of their families which will bring them millions of new voters who they hope will replace all of the seniors, and if that doesn’t work, they can depend on ACORN and the unions to bring them more dead voters!


13 posted on 09/08/2009 8:12:59 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (We knew a revolution was coming, but who knew it would be started by rowdy senior citizens! lol...)
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Democrats losing seniors? No worries, the full-throttle Obama seduction of youngsters began today.


14 posted on 09/08/2009 8:16:50 PM PDT by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: Rocko

“Obama deserves this for rewriting Randy Newman:
“Old People got no reason to live.” “

This was actually said by the Mayor of Tokyo

“Old women got no reason to live.”


15 posted on 09/08/2009 8:17:05 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Iron Munro

Bump for cool VOTD pic.


16 posted on 09/08/2009 8:17:38 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Obamanos!)
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To: NRA2BFree

the demoncRATS probably have a secret file called “old fogey nullification” with that plan in it.


17 posted on 09/08/2009 8:19:46 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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I find the "Medicare for All" signs very arrogant. Medicare was meant for the retired, mostly, for people with extensive medical needs who were no longer working, to prevent their bankruptcy and the possible bankruptcy of their children.

After exorbitant insurance costs coupled with deductibles and poor coverage, and possibly very low income, during the gap between working and turning 65, they finally get Medicare, and now everyone wants it.

18 posted on 09/08/2009 8:22:58 PM PDT by firebrand
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I keep saying it will be the seniors that will defeat healthcare.


19 posted on 09/08/2009 8:24:36 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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The Blacks will stay where they are. The uberlibs will also. The seniors who built this nation are going to give this communist government the old heave ho as soon as they can.


20 posted on 09/08/2009 8:38:04 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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