[popdonnelly]

Why did the so-called “birthers” start this nonsense without one shred of evidence that Obama was born anywhere else but Hawaii. His Certificate of Live Birth says he was born in Hawaii, the head doctor at the hospital, who examined the records, said he was born in Hawaii. I’m conservative on a lot of things, but I’m not going to take the birthers seriously.

[plsjr]

[lonewacko_dot_com]

I don’t know about anyone else, but I first started covering this when a WaPo writer lied about the basic facts of the matter back in June 2008:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/007788.html

I didn’t get any help with discrediting the MSM over their lies then, and I’m not getting any help now despite the fact that it could be used to discredit a wide range of not-very-nice people.

Also, regarding your statements:
1. No gov’t agency has authenticated the picture of a COLB shown on Obama’s site.
2. You don’t have the occupation of the person who examined the records right. And, her first statement on 10/31/08 was ambiguous and for the next eight months she took no steps to resolve that ambiguity or point out that others were putting words in her mouth. Her second statement was more clear cut, but it included her rhetorically stalking off at the end.

[Vendome]

 

You said: “Why did the so-called “birthers” start this nonsense without one shred of evidence that Obama was born anywhere else but Hawaii”

 

Well because he tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

 

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

 

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
•  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
• The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

 

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

 

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

 

It would have been nice to get a hold of it before the election but I think most thought we were going to end up with Hillary.

 

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 

Then you said “the head doctor at the hospital, who examined the records, said he was born in Hawaii”

 

Really?  Who said that and when?  The truth is it was never said and there is no doctor of whatever hospital you are referring to that examined anything.

 

[ASA Vet]

At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution, the definition of natural born citizen, combined both principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Emmerich Vattel, Law of Nations, § 212. Of the citizens and natives

[Charles Martel]

His Certificate of Live Birth says he was born in Hawaii, the head doctor at the hospital, who examined the records, said he was born in Hawaii. I’m conservative on a lot of things, but I’m not going to take the birthers seriously.

Let's see a source link for that doctor's statement, please.