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Steny Hoyer: We may really have to dump this public option
Hotair ^ | 9/8/2009 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 09/08/2009 10:54:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

This morning, Steny Hoyer signaled yet again that the public option will get dropped from ObamaCare, even in the House, where a threat from the House Progressive Caucus says that would lose 100 votes on the final product. Hoyer broached the possibility almost three weeks ago, and was roundly criticized by his colleagues for wavering. But does Hoyer represent the mainstream after the August recess?

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer indicated Tuesday that a public option might need to be dropped from the healthcare bill in order to get it passed.

“In the final analysis, we have to see what will pass,” said Hoyer (D-Md.). “I think the public option is a very good choice for consumers to have. On the other hand, I’ve said I hope we can move a bill forward.”

Hoyer said that even without the public option there are other crucial changes to the healthcare system, such as capping healthcare costs for consumers.

Who pays when consumers exceed the spending caps? Everyone, through higher taxes for subsidies and higher premiums from the insurance companies. It’s an absurd approach, especially since the ObamaCare advocates routinely talk about the overuse of the health-care system. Indemnifying people for busting the caps won’t reduce that, although it happens so rarely that it really won’t have much impact one way or the other, except on premiums as insurers recalculate risk.

Hoyer’s second bite at this apple comes at an interesting moment, just as Barack Obama will speak at a joint session of Congress to demand action. It’s been widely reported that Obama will back away from his earlier demand for a public option. If Obama wasn’t going avail himself of a retreat, would Hoyer be laying the groundwork for one? It’s unlikely.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; hoyer; obamacare; publicoption
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1 posted on 09/08/2009 10:54:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I been saying this. They couldnt pass this in early August and things have gotten worse since then.


2 posted on 09/08/2009 10:56:19 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t trust these snakes! Watch what they do, not what they say.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 10:57:20 AM PDT by VRWCRick
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To: SeekAndFind
You better just drop the whole thing...just like the Clintons were forced to do. Otherwise (and in all probability, in any event), prepare to get routed in 2010.


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OBAMA CARE BY THE NUMBERS


OBAMA IS AN ABJECT MARXIST IDEOLOGUE

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4 posted on 09/08/2009 10:58:58 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: SeekAndFind

If the public option doesn’t pass now, it will get passed later. This bill must be shot down in it’s entirety.


6 posted on 09/08/2009 10:59:39 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: VRWCRick

Amen to that: We do have to keep the pressure on now for sure. Trust is the issue you are right again. WE DO NOT TRUST THEM.


7 posted on 09/08/2009 11:00:04 AM PDT by vicar7
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To: SeekAndFind
And he’s right....he is trying to get sheople on board by “throwing them a bone”, so they can get the thing passed and then do WHATEVER they want later on. Just get it passed and then make it what you want....an old political trick. Don’t fall for it!
8 posted on 09/08/2009 11:00:31 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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9 posted on 09/08/2009 11:01:03 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like a damned-if-you-do/dammed-if-you-don’t senario for the Dems. The more liberal contingent won’t tolerate a bill without the ‘government option’ included. What a dilemma :)


10 posted on 09/08/2009 11:01:13 AM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Time and time again I have heard legislators quoted on the radio saying "Whatever happens, we want to pass some kind of health care bill."

For the life of me I cannot understand why.

11 posted on 09/08/2009 11:02:43 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: SeekAndFind
DON'T FALL FOR IT. The raison d'etre for healthcare "reform" is the public option. Buried deep inside somewhere in whatever new version they come up with will be a trigger or provision or whatever for the public option. Healthcare reform *IS* the public option.
12 posted on 09/08/2009 11:03:21 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: SeekAndFind

Any health care bill arranged by the United States Congress IS a public option.


13 posted on 09/08/2009 11:03:32 AM PDT by stevem
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To: SeekAndFind

Dump S. Hoyer!


14 posted on 09/08/2009 11:03:57 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: joejm65
If the public option doesn’t pass now, it will get passed later.

Yes, the latest Dem strategy to garner support is to include a "trigger" for insurance companies to comply with after a certain period of time. This is snake oil, plain and simple. I can see some RINO's falling for this, BUT THEY MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO!!!!

15 posted on 09/08/2009 11:04:20 AM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Not gonna happen. The Great and Mighty Oz will find some razzle-dazzle method to insert the public option in the bill.

KILL THE WHOLE BILL!


16 posted on 09/08/2009 11:04:56 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (POWER TO THE PEOPLE)
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To: joejm65

YES!

We Americans have no common ground with democrat radicals. Anything they would want to do is bad.

We must keep hammering NO BILL, NONE, NO FURTHER INVOLVEMENT OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. NOT NOW OR EVER.

TERM LIMITS NOW.

States should start working on constitutional amendments exempting the state from ANY federal health care program.


17 posted on 09/08/2009 11:06:59 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: SeekAndFind

Steny, we may really have to dump you all on your kiesters next year.


18 posted on 09/08/2009 11:09:22 AM PDT by mancini
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To: SeekAndFind

Bam’s left flank will blow this trial balloon out of the sky with a Howitzer.


19 posted on 09/08/2009 11:15:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

How can anyone in their right mind trust the United States Congress to do anything like this with any competence.

95 percent of them are thieves, liars, and/or sociopaths.


20 posted on 09/08/2009 11:15:27 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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