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Refusing to Let It Be: The Beatles in Stereo
Washington Post ^ | September 8, 2009 | Matt Hurwitz

Posted on 09/08/2009 9:19:12 AM PDT by La Lydia

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I think I'll go to Best Buy...
1 posted on 09/08/2009 9:19:14 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

I may not think it’s worth it after the fact, but I’m buying them.


2 posted on 09/08/2009 9:21:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: La Lydia

I think music on vinyl sounds better than digital music. I’m not being nostalgic here. A good record played on a good stereo sounds...fuller? Don’t know the right word. Anyway...


3 posted on 09/08/2009 9:23:18 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: joejm65

Maybe you need to get some new speakers?


4 posted on 09/08/2009 9:24:06 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: joejm65

Because vinyl was an analog recording, and therefore got more of the harmonics for the music. CD deliberately “clips” frequencies above ~20,000Hz or below ~50Hz, on the assumption that most people can’t hear them anyway, and it therefore saves on the size of each track.


5 posted on 09/08/2009 9:25:42 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: La Lydia

Can we see some wave file comparisons or spectrum analyzer data to show the better separation or whatever is behind the hype?


6 posted on 09/08/2009 9:26:11 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Little Pig

Beatles’ records in Mono are worth more.


7 posted on 09/08/2009 9:26:55 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: joejm65

To use the popular descriptor - vinyl has a bigger and fuller “Sound Stage”. It doesn’t clip the highs and lows that digital can.

That said the new CD’s are remasterd so you may get more info from the new CD’s as opposed to the old vinyl. That and vinyl degrades every time you play it.


8 posted on 09/08/2009 9:27:07 AM PDT by Syntyr (If its too loud your too old...)
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To: Little Pig

You have any objective evidence you can hear above 20k Hz?


9 posted on 09/08/2009 9:27:36 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: joejm65

“I think music on vinyl sounds better than digital music. I’m not being nostalgic here. A good record played on a good stereo sounds...fuller? Don’t know the right word. Anyway...”

Totally agree, but it’s difficult getting the needle to stay on the record in the car. ;)


10 posted on 09/08/2009 9:27:38 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Little Pig
Didn't Paul Mc overdub Ringo's drum playing with his own ?
11 posted on 09/08/2009 9:27:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wagglebee

I am definitely buying them.


12 posted on 09/08/2009 9:27:58 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

In some cases, I believe.
Jokes aside, Ringo was a good drummer..


I just don’t think I’m going to enjoy the “new” versions-the old ones are just fine...(especially Paul’s “Grandma songs” as Lennon called them...)


13 posted on 09/08/2009 9:31:59 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: massgopguy
Beatles’ records in Mono are worth more.

I've been hearing about the Beatles in mono since my parents introduced me to the Beatles. I pre-ordered the mono box set that will be released on Wednesday along with this remastered stereo box set. Only albums missing (since they were originally released as stereo only) are Yellow Submarine, Let It Be and Abbey Road. I've had a chance to listen to some of the mono songs on YouTube - certainly different enough to warrant the purchase for me.
14 posted on 09/08/2009 9:34:15 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: joejm65

My wife and I have a collection of about a thousand vinyl records, some very rare and unreleased on CD, and some that we just never bought on CD for whatever reason— mainly $$$.

I unearthed her turntable a month ago and bought a new cartridge for it, invested about $50 in a record cleaning kit and a can of Gruv-Glide and started ripping the albums to Mp3.

Personally, I cannot detect an obvious improvement in quality over the CD versions, but they DO sound different. They sound like they did when I sat in my room and played them over and over again until the early hours of the morning. For that reason, and a few others, they have value. A CD is a CD— they all sound the same. These are OUR records.


15 posted on 09/08/2009 9:36:28 AM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Paul, half zoned out, singing "Let it Be", classic, see HERE
16 posted on 09/08/2009 9:37:03 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Paladin2

It’s not just the cutoff in frequency, it also has to do with the digital sampling rate. The higher the frequency of the waveform, the less accurate the sample will be. With the CD sample rate, you start to lose some of the quality of the reproduction of the analog signal long before 20Khz


17 posted on 09/08/2009 9:37:56 AM PDT by dfwright (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left (Eccl. 10:2, NIV))
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I've been hearing about the Beatles in mono since my parents introduced me to the Beatles.

Same here. So now I have this dilemma - I'd like to get all the new remastered CDs but I prefer the mono versions. That means I won't get the 3 you mentioned. Maybe I need to buy both the mono and stereo boxed sets...
18 posted on 09/08/2009 9:38:11 AM PDT by weef (Teachers = Union Thugs?)
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To: Little Pig
CD deliberately “clips” frequencies above ~20,000Hz or below ~50Hz, on the assumption that most people can’t hear them anyway,

Which is an absolutely valid assumption.

19 posted on 09/08/2009 9:38:29 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Little Pig

Interesting.

So even if most people do not noticeably “hear” the higher and lower frequncies that were recorded, those parts of the music are getting sent out on vinyl but not on CDs. I wonder if double-blinded audience studies would reveal diffferent impressions of the full band vs. clipped band versions of the same songs? Theoretically and if all else where equal, the broader band version might leave a slightly different impression on listeners than the clipped version??


20 posted on 09/08/2009 9:38:40 AM PDT by rod1
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