Posted on 09/08/2009 7:25:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
With one eye on his plummeting approval ratings, the president is dropping his support for a government-run insurance plan, AKA the public option. The White House says it wants to synthesize and harmonize and that its going to approach [health-care reform] in a different way, but its hard to see this as anything other than a significant retreat. The public option was once the core of the presidents health-care plan.
Obamas base supporters are furious, not only because the public option is important to them, but also because they think the American people want it. At first glace, the polling data they cite seem to support this idea. But on closer inspection, it becomes clear that these advocates have misread the polls.
Its important to remember that while public polling can pick up on general attitudes (Do you approve of the president?), it is of limited use when it comes to specific policy issues. The more complex the policy involved, the less useful the poll is.
And yet in June, the New York Times set the tone for health-care-poll coverage with the headline In Poll, Wide Support for Government-Run Health. The poll found that 72 percent of respondents favored the public option. With every successive poll with a similar result, liberal outfits such as the Campaign for Americas Future have beat their chests with headlines such as New Poll Shows Tremendous Support for Public Health Care Option. Recently, liberal Washington Post blogger Ezra Klein urged Democratic lawmakers to Listen to the Polls and wrote that opposition to a government-run health-care option is resolutely, aggressively, anti-democratic. And just this past Friday, another Washington Post blogger, Greg Sargent, ran a story called White House Polling Memo Omits Numbers Showing Support For Public Option.
Its rather hard to reconcile this interpretation of the polls with the political unpopularity of the Democrats handing of the issue. Rather than consider the datas limitations, however, liberal health-care-reform advocates have reacted like chimpanzees whove been shown simple conjuring tricks. Its beyond their comprehension that they could be losing the debate.
The problem is that these polls ask the wrong thing. The relevant question is not, Do you support the public option? but rather, What is the public option?
After months of fruitless White House and Democratic campaigning, a polling firm has finally done a rudimentary test of what the public knows about the health-reform debate. Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates released a poll last week that ought to undermine any confidence Democrats might have about enjoying a mandate for health reform. The survey of a thousand adults found that, given a choice of three plausible-sounding definitions, only 37 percent of the public could correctly identify what the public option is. Thats nearly the equivalent probability that one would expect if everyone were just guessing, according to the poll (a random pick between three options, of course, gives a 33 percent chance of success).
The Penn poll is not without its problems for one thing, its an Internet poll, which isnt nearly as reliable as a traditional poll. But even Nate Silver, a decidedly liberal-leaning pollster, observes that this should serve as something of a reality check for people on both sides of the public option debate. Silver further notes that ignorance on the topic is widespread; it persists regardless of party affiliation.
Silver still insists that reputable polls provide ample evidence that there is public support for a public insurance option. Specifically, Silver cites two polls including this Quinnipiac poll, which asked, Do you support or oppose giving people the option of being covered by a government health insurance plan that would compete with private plans? Sixty-two percent of respondents said they did support such a thing. (Though support was down seven points from the previous Quinnipiac survey a month prior.)
But looking at the rest of the poll, once again we see that public attitudes about the proposed health reforms are deeply confused. Pluralities think the Obama health reforms would hurt the quality of care, hurt the economy, and increase their personal health-care costs. Solid majorities 1) think Obamas health reforms would increase taxes; 2) oppose the part of plan that would make insurance mandatory and fine those who did not have it; and 3) say they would prefer to have private insurance over government insurance. That last result is telling, considering that the major argument against a subsidized government insurance plan is that it would put private insurers out of business. Again, ignorance of the issues might go a long way toward explaining polling results that are seemingly at odds.
The problem of ignorance in health-reform polling should have been obvious from the very beginning. Its as if the media and Democratic politicians spent the last few months conspiring to convince themselves they already had public support for health reform, when the public in fact needed not only convincing, but also informing. Back in June when the New York Times trumpeted Wide Support for Government-Run Health in its headline, buried in the article was the concession, it is not clear how fully the public understands the complexities of the government plan proposal, and the poll results indicate that those who said they were following the debate were somewhat less supportive. Theres a case to be made that the reason the White House health-care agenda has tanked in the polls over the last two months is that the public has actually become more informed about what those reforms are.
Maybe, as Nate Silver argues, there is still some polling evidence to suggest that Americans do think the public option is a good idea. But that evidence is much weaker than many advocates seem to think, and this misconception has led them to engage in some very bad politics.
Mark Heminway is an NRO staff reporter.
Why is The White House proposing to wreck health care for more than 80% of America?
Why does The White House think that high quality, low cost health care exists?
Either the people who work there are dedicated socialists - or - they’re dumber than a box of rocks.
I think either answer will suffice.
“If you ever want to lose your faith in the Democratic system, just have a five minute conversation with your average voter”. Winston Churchill
The White House says it wants to synthesize and harmonize
...what’s this? Obama staring to put together some raps ala Jesse jackson?
“I want to synthesize and harmonize to desensitize da public’s eyes to critisize and homogenize my tendency to feminize”.
It should be called the bankruptcy option. It will be bankrupted before it starts. Public health care will be cheaper but there won’t be any.
Keep in mind that Obama states high minded positive goals that are hard to argue with. Problem is that they contradict the democrat bills, and are not even probably possible. Like covering everyone without raising our taxes, and without changing our current insurance.
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Do you favor or oppose a government insurance option under any national healthcare plan?
28% Favor
55% Oppose
17% Not sure
This is the most succinct and accurate summary of HR 3200, The Health Care Bill, that I have found:( Please share it far and wide)
The Health Care Bill: What HR 3200, Americas Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, Says
John David Lewis ( PhD, faculty, Duke University)
August 6, 2009
What does the bill, HR 3200, short-titled Americas Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, actually say about major health care issues? I here pose a few questions in no particular order, citing relevant passages and offering a brief evaluation after each set of passages.
This bill is 1017 pages long. It is knee-deep in legalese and references to other federal regulations and laws. I have only touched pieces of the bill here. For instance, I have not considered the establishment of (1) Health Choices Commissio0ner (Section 141); (2) a Health Insurance Exchange, (Section 201), basically a government run insurance scheme to coordinate all insurance activity; (3) a Public Health Insurance Option (Section 221); and similar provisions.
Although I am an associate professor in the Philosophy, Politics and Economics program at Duke University, this document is neither an academic nor a professional analysis. This is the evaluation of someone who is neither a physician nor a legal professional. I asked some simple questions about the bill, considered them in context with the overall structure, definitions, and procedures in the bill, and quoted only the immediate passages involved. I am citizen, concerned about this bills effects on my freedom as an American. I would rather have used my time in other waysbut this is too important to ignore.
We may answer one question up front: How will the government will pay for all this? Higher taxes, more borrowing, printing money, cutting payments, or rationing servicesthere are no other options. We will all pay for this, enrolled in the government option or not.
(All bold type within the text of the bill is added for emphasis.)
1. 1. WILL THE PLAN RATION MEDICAL CARE?
This is what the bill says, pages 284-288, SEC. 1151. REDUCING POTENTIALLY PREVENTABLE HOSPITAL READMISSIONS:
(ii) EXCLUSION OF CERTAIN READMISSIONS.For purposes of clause (i), with respect to a hospital, excess readmissions shall not include readmissions for an applicable condition for which there are fewer than a minimum number (as determined by the Secretary) of discharges for such applicable condition for the applicable period and such hospital.
and, under Definitions:
(A) APPLICABLE CONDITION.The term applicable condition means, subject to subparagraph (B), a condition or procedure selected by the Secretary . . .
and:
(E) READMISSION.The term readmission means, in the case of an individual who is discharged from an applicable hospital, the admission of the individual to the same or another applicable hospital within a time period specified by the Secretary from the date of such discharge.
and:
(6) LIMITATIONS ON REVIEW.There shall be no administrative or judicial review under section 1869, section 1878, or otherwise of . . .
(C) the measures of readmissions . . .
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGES:
1. This section amends the Social Security Act
2. The government has the power to determine what constitutes an applicable [medical] condition.
3. The government has the power to determine who is allowed readmission into a hospital.
4. This determination will be made by statistics: when enough people have been discharged for the same condition, an individual may be readmitted.
5. This is government rationing, pure, simple, and straight up.
6. There can be no judicial review of decisions made here. The Secretary is above the courts.
7. The plan also allows the government to prohibit hospitals from expanding without federal permission: page 317-318.
2. Will the plan punish Americans who try to opt out?
What the bill says, pages 167-168, section 401, TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE:
(a) TAX IMPOSED.In the case of any individual who does not meet the requirements of subsection (d) at any time during the taxable year, there is hereby imposed a tax equal to 2.5 percent of the excess of
(1) the taxpayers modified adjusted gross income for the taxable year, over
(2) the amount of gross income specified in section 6012(a)(1) with respect to the taxpayer. . . .
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGE:
1. This section amends the Internal Revenue Code.
2. Anyone caught without acceptable coverage and not in the government plan will pay a special tax.
3. The IRS will be a major enforcement mechanism for the plan.
3. what constitutes acceptable coverage?
Here is what the bill says, pages 26-30, SEC. 122, ESSENTIAL BENEFITS PACKAGE DEFINED:
(a) IN GENERAL.In this division, the term essential benefits package means health benefits coverage, consistent with standards adopted under section 124 to ensure the provision of quality health care and financial security . . .
(b) MINIMUM SERVICES TO BE COVERED.The items and services described in this subsection are the following:
(1) Hospitalization.
(2) Outpatient hospital and outpatient clinic services . . .
(3) Professional services of physicians and other health professionals.
(4) Such services, equipment, and supplies incident to the services of a physicians or a health professionals delivery of care . . .
(5) Prescription drugs.
(6) Rehabilitative and habilitative services.
(7) Mental health and substance use disorder services.
(8) Preventive services . . .
(9) Maternity care.
(10) Well baby and well child care . . .
(c) REQUIREMENTS RELATING TO COST-SHARING AND MINIMUM ACTUARIAL VALUE . . .
(3) MINIMUM ACTUARIAL VALUE.
(A) IN GENERAL.The cost-sharing under the essential benefits package shall be designed to provide a level of coverage that is designed to provide benefits that are actuarially equivalent to approximately 70 percent of the full actuarial value of the benefits provided under the reference benefits package described in subparagraph (B).
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGES:
1. The bill defines acceptable coverage and leaves no room for choice in this regard.
2. By setting a minimum 70% actuarial value of benefits, the bill makes health plans in which individuals pay for routine services, but carry insurance only for catastrophic events, (such as Health Savings Accounts) illegal.
4. Will the PLAN destroy private health insurance?
Here is what it requires, for businesses with payrolls greater than $400,000 per year. (The bill uses contribution to refer to mandatory payments to the government plan.) Pages 149-150, SEC. 313, EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS IN LIEU OF COVERAGE
(a) IN GENERAL.A contribution is made in accordance with this section with respect to an employee if such contribution is equal to an amount equal to 8 percent of the average wages paid by the employer during the period of enrollment (determined by taking into account all employees of the employer and in such manner as the Commissioner provides, including rules providing for the appropriate aggregation of related employers). Any such contribution
(1) shall be paid to the Health Choices Commissioner for deposit into the Health Insurance Exchange Trust Fund, and
(2) shall not be applied against the premium of the employee under the Exchange-participating health benefits plan in which the employee is enrolled.
(The bill then includes a sliding scale of payments for business with less than $400,000 in annual payroll.)
The Bill also reserves, for the government, the power to determine an acceptable benefits plan: page 24, SEC. 115. ENSURING ADEQUACY OF PROVIDER NETWORKS.
5 (a) IN GENERAL.A qualified health benefits plan that uses a provider network for items and services shall meet such standards respecting provider networks as the Commissioner may establish to assure the adequacy of such networks in ensuring enrollee access to such items and services and transparency in the cost-sharing differentials between in-network coverage and out-of-network coverage.
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGES:
1. The bill does not prohibit a person from buying private insurance.
2. Small businesseswith say 8-10 employeeswill either have to provide insurance to federal standards, or pay an 8% payroll tax. Business costs for health care are higher than this, especially considering administrative costs. Any competitive business that tries to stay with a private plan will face a payroll disadvantage against competitors who go with the government option.
3. The pressure for business owners to terminate the private plans will be enormous.
4. With employers ending plans, millions of Americans will lose their private coverage, and fewer companies will offer it.
5. The Commissioner (meaning, always, the bureaucrats) will determine whether a particular network of physicians, hospitals and insurance is acceptable.
6. With private insurance starved, many people enrolled in the government option will have no place else to go.
5. Does the plan TAX successful Americans more THAN OTHERS?
Here is what the bill says, pages 197-198, SEC. 441. SURCHARGE ON HIGH INCOME INDIVIDUALS
SEC. 59C. SURCHARGE ON HIGH INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
(a) GENERAL RULE.In the case of a taxpayer other than a corporation, there is hereby imposed (in addition to any other tax imposed by this subtitle) a tax equal to
(1) 1 percent of so much of the modified adjusted gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds $350,000 but does not exceed $500,000,
(2) 1.5 percent of so much of the modified adjusted gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds $500,000 but does not exceed $1,000,000, and
(3) 5.4 percent of so much of the modified adjusted gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds $1,000,000.
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGE:
1. This bill amends the Internal Revenue Code.
2. Tax surcharges are levied on those with the highest incomes.
3. The plan manipulates the tax code to redistribute their wealth.
4. Successful business owners will bear the highest cost of this plan.
6. 6. Does THE PLAN ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO set FEES FOR SERVICES?
What it says, page 124, Sec. 223, PAYMENT RATES FOR ITEMS AND SERVICES:
(d) CONSTRUCTION.Nothing in this subtitle shall be construed as limiting the Secretarys authority to correct for payments that are excessive or deficient, taking into account the provisions of section 221(a) and the amounts paid for similar health care providers and services under other Exchange-participating health benefits plans.
(e) CONSTRUCTION.Nothing in this subtitle shall be construed as affecting the authority of the Secretary to establish payment rates, including payments to provide for the more efficient delivery of services, such as the initiatives provided for under section 224.
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGES:
The governments authority to set payments is basically unlimited.
The official will decide what constitutes excessive, deficient, and efficient payments and services.
7. Will THE PLAN increase the power of government officials to SCRUTINIZE our private affairs?
What it says, pages 195-196, SEC. 431. DISCLOSURES TO CARRY OUT HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE SUBSIDIES.
(A) IN GENERAL.The Secretary, upon written request from the Health Choices Commissioner or the head of a State-based health insurance exchange approved for operation under section 208 of the Americas Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, shall disclose to officers and employees of the Health Choices Administration or such State-based health insurance exchange, as the case may be, return information of any taxpayer whose income is relevant in determining any affordability credit described in subtitle C of title II of the Americas Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009. Such return information shall be limited to
(i) taxpayer identity information with respect to such taxpayer,
(ii) the filing status of such taxpayer,
(iii) the modified adjusted gross income of such taxpayer (as defined in section 59B(e)(5)),
(iv) the number of dependents of the taxpayer,
(v) such other information as is prescribed by the Secretary by regulation as might indicate whether the taxpayer is eligible for such affordability credits (and the amount thereof), and
(vi) the taxable year with respect to which the preceding information relates or, if applicable, the fact that such information is not available.
And, page 145, section 312, EMPLOYER RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS EMPLOYEE AND DEPENDENT COVERAGE:
(3) PROVISION OF INFORMATION.The employer provides the Health Choices Commissioner, the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and the Secretary of the Treasury, as applicable, with such information as the Commissioner may require to ascertain compliance with the requirements of this section.
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGE:
1. This section amends the Internal Revenue Code
2. The bill opens up income tax return information to federal officials.
3. Any stated limits to such information are circumvented by item (v), which allows federal officials to decide what information is needed.
4. Employers are required to report whatever information the government says it needs to enforce the plan.
8. 8. Does the plan automatically enroll Americans in the GOVERNMENT plan?
What it says, page 102, Section 205, Outreach and enrollment of Exchange-eligible individuals and employers in Exchange-participating health benefits plan:
(3) AUTOMATIC ENROLLMENT OF MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS INTO MEDICAID.The Commissioner shall provide for a process under which an individual who is described in section 202(d)(3) and has not elected to enroll in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan is automatically enrolled under Medicaid.
And, page 145, section 312:
(4) AUTOENROLLMENT OF EMPLOYEES.The employer provides for autoenrollment of the employee in accordance with subsection (c).
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGES:
1. Do nothing and you are in.
2. Employers are responsible for automatically enrolling people who still work.
9. 9. Does THE PLAN exempt federal OFFICIALS from COURT REVIEW?
What it says, page 124, Section 223, PAYMENT RATES FOR ITEMS AND SERVICES:
(f) LIMITATIONS ON REVIEW.There shall be no administrative or judicial review of a payment rate or methodology established under this section or under section 224.
And, page 256, SEC. 1123. PAYMENTS FOR EFFICIENT AREAS.
(C) LIMITATION ON REVIEW.There shall be no administrative or judicial review under section 1869, 1878, or otherwise, respecting
(i) the identification of a county or other area under subparagraph (A); or
(ii) the assignment of a postal ZIP Code to a county or other area under subparagraph (B).
EVALUATION OF THE PASSAGES:
1. Sec. 1123 amends the Social Security Act, to allow the Secretary to identify areas of the country that underutilize the governments plan based on per capita spending.
2. Parts of the plan are set above the review of the courts.
Source: http://www.classicalideals.com/HR3200.htm
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