Exactly.
What liberal ever has a civil, intelligent discussion of this sort?
Good point - I'll rephrase just a little: What Leftist ever has a civil, intelligent discussion of this sort?
Once in a while I'll see an intellectually honest liberal debate their point civilly and with intelligence. The few that don't employ the "Wall of Sound" technique have my respect for their behavior, if not my agreement with their beliefs.
Liberals who will actually have an intelligent debate with you about political philosophy are rare. They're usually the sort of people who have simply been acclimated to liberal views, without having actually examined both sides for themselves. They can be honestly inquisitive. Again - they're rare.
The few that don't employ the "Wall of Sound" technique have my respect for their behavior, if not my agreement with their beliefs.
Some committed liberals will just shut down on you, if you present them with a series of indisputable facts. My dad is like that. He just bows out of the conversation when I pile on the facts and reason.
My siblings, on the other hand, just get louder and more belligerent, the more I undermine their position. It's a reaction, either way.
If they had the truth on their side, they'd simply, and civilly lay it all out for me until I "got it". They can't do that, because their position is shot full of holes, so they protest my outing their support of ignorance and lies. All liars and all liberals do this when challenged with the facts.