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How the ELCA Left the Great Tradition for Liberal Protestantism
Christianity Today ^ | 9/02/2009 | Robert Benne

Posted on 09/04/2009 6:14:42 PM PDT by rhema

There is no authoritative biblical or theological guidance in the church. There are only many voices.

During last week's biennial Church Wide Assembly of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), the church affirmed major policy recommendations to allow for the blessing of same-sex unions (which practice will soon inflate to same-sex marriage) and the rostering of gay and lesbian pastors in partnered relationships.

Earlier in the week it also passed by one vote—out of over 1,000 total votes cast—a Social Statement on Sexuality that admitted there was no consensus on the moral evaluation of homosexual conduct, and offered no compelling biblical or theological reasons to support the policies it later in fact adopted. The Statement was firm and bold on issues that everyone agreed upon—the moral condemnation of promiscuity, pornography, sexual exploitation, etc.—but indecisive and vague about contested issues—co-habitation, premarital sex, the importance of the nuclear family, and, of course, homosexual conduct.

Right before the vote on the Social Statement a totally unexpected tornado hit the Minneapolis Conference Center where we were meeting as well as the huge Central Lutheran Church next door, knocking the cross off one of its towers. Orthodox voting members saw the work of God in the tornado's cross-toppling effects and in the vote that passed with a .666 majority. Revisionists noted that the sun came out after the vote. In response the orthodox quipped that the sun comes out almost every day, but rogue tornados are pretty rare!

Those in the orthodox camp warned the assembly not to vote on binding church doctrine, especially if it had no convincing biblical or theological arguments to overturn the moral consensus of the one holy, catholic, and apostolic church held throughout the ages and by 99 percent of the world's Christians.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: apostasy; cult; elca; fauxchristians; gaychurch; homosexualcult; liberals; lutheran; nonchristiancult; protestants; religiousleft; schism; sickpuppies
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1 posted on 09/04/2009 6:14:42 PM PDT by rhema
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To: Caleb1411
On the other hand, the decision was not at all unexpected by those of us who have fought against the underlying currents operating in the ELCA from its very inception. The fight has been long yet predictable. Liberal Protestantism was the ELCA's destination. Indeed, its presiding Bishop, Mark Hanson, is fast becoming the charismatic leader of liberal Protestantism.
2 posted on 09/04/2009 6:15:52 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: lightman

Yo.


3 posted on 09/04/2009 6:16:15 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: rhema

What’s the Missouri Synod’s take on all this? Are they allowing homosexual pastors and weddings, etc.?


4 posted on 09/04/2009 6:16:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: rhema
Whatever happened to obeying God? Too risky these days for the ELCA?
5 posted on 09/04/2009 6:16:57 PM PDT by pray4liberty (satisfied customer of http://www.skyangel.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

no


6 posted on 09/04/2009 6:31:54 PM PDT by xone
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To: pray4liberty
Whatever happened to obeying God? Too risky these days for the ELCA?

For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God. John 12:43

7 posted on 09/04/2009 6:36:21 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No. The Missouri Synod believes that all forms of homosexuality are contrary to the clear teachings of Holy Scripture. The President of the LCMS has issued a statement condemning this decision of the ELCA.

As the article noted, this action was not a big surprise when the ELCA endorsed homosexual behavior. It was the inevitable result of women's ordination. People tried to warn the ALC and LCA long before the ELCA was established that if they chose to ignore Scripture and adopt the secular agenda, it would come to this. They didn't listen then, and they are not listening now. The ELCA has adopted liberal cultural relativism as the norm for interpreting Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions.

8 posted on 09/04/2009 6:39:09 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: rhema

The battle cry of Martin Luther was SOLA SCRIPTURA. The ECLA have now done away with SCRIPTURA. This is simply the consequence of what they’ve done.

I wonder why they still use the name of “Luther” for their organization.


9 posted on 09/04/2009 6:42:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I say HOW DARE THEY use the name Luther.


10 posted on 09/04/2009 6:53:18 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Nosterrex

My family worshipped at both LCA and ALC churches as I grew up (we moved a lot) and I attended a LCMS school for 8th grade. Very sad.


11 posted on 09/04/2009 7:01:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...
Thanks to Charles Henrickson (faithful LC-MS Pastor) for the ping.



Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

12 posted on 09/04/2009 7:14:17 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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To: rhema
So, ELCA, making excuses for man's sin takes precedent over the glory of God and teaching His Commandments.

Some churches are even teaching that, really, there is no such thing as sin. It's all relative...imagine that!

13 posted on 09/04/2009 7:25:51 PM PDT by pray4liberty (satisfied customer of http://www.skyangel.com)
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To: rhema

I hope the Missouri Synod churches are ready for the influx.


15 posted on 09/04/2009 8:58:45 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Education is not the filling of a bucket, but the lighting of a fire." ---Yeats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Definitely no...LCMS is not like the ELCA...


16 posted on 09/04/2009 9:12:08 PM PDT by Valentine_W
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To: pray4liberty

I hope they all enjoy their reward here on earth.


17 posted on 09/04/2009 10:44:55 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: cookcounty
I'm LCMS. I don't really expect an influx. There may be a few quiet, unassuming souls who just tip-toe out the back door and join the LCMS.

Seems to me, though, that not many people will leave. There's an organization of liberal Lutherans who want to remain true to their heritage (Lutheran CORE) but, at the end of the day, I don't think they identify with LCMS. Those folks are more likely to form their own associations.

It's just as well. If there were a great influx, they'd just "re-invent" the LCMS and spoil it within a generation.

18 posted on 09/04/2009 11:11:12 PM PDT by TPartyType
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To: TPartyType
I was former ELCA. We left seventeen years and ago for the LCMS and I agree with every word you said. I, also do not expect a big influx. We will barely feel it. Pride gets in the way of doing the right thing. They absolutely will be going to the LCMC, or whatever other group.

The LCMC is a step in the right direction but they will eventually be right back to where they are now as one of the reasons they don't want to take a complete step away from the ELCA is because they still believe in women in the clergy.

19 posted on 09/05/2009 4:36:31 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: SeekAndFind
I wonder why they still use the name of “Luther” for their organization.

The people who made the Yugo would have used the name "Cadillac" if they could have.

20 posted on 09/05/2009 8:00:32 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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