1. The State of Hawaii has authenticated his Certificate of Live Birth. That is game, set, match. Don't feed me the "he won't show the long form version" bullcrap. Not buying. Certified copies of State records are presumptively authentic in all courts of law.
2. Even assuming that Pres. Obama was illegitimate - that doesn't make the orders for her to deploy illegal. SecDef Gates, and other personnel confirmed by Congress - NOT the President - cut her orders. They are legal.
They are acting under orders and the authority of the President who is the Commander In Chief in times of war. They issue orders by dir.
The crux of the issue is that if the CIC is not legally authorized to be CIC, then all subsequent actions are illegal. This is not sedition, nor is it mutiny. There are simply too many questions that the man refuses to answer that are questioning his legitimacy.
Bullsh*t
The State of Hawaii only confirmed that a Certificate of Live Birth exists and is in the Vault. They did not say what was in it. This doesn't mean the information is authenticated.
As for this woman being a coward, you have no proof of that, you have no proof that she is not sincere in her beliefs and you are wrong that her orders are legal even if he is NOT the legal CIC. All orders ultimately originate with the President.
The COLB has been proven a fake. Hawaii says they have seen the origonal, but have never released it, and further will not state that the COLB on the web is the same one that they have seen.
Grow a set pal...
All orders origonate from the CIC, commander in charge, which is the POTUS...
Evidently you do not know the Chain of Command, also you have not read the case file, I just finished reading it, and all your statements have been rendered moot.
Read the file then get back to us.
I realize you didn't want to ruin your four day weekend getting worked up on FR about this Birth certificate issue... So, when you do come back I just want to make sure that you have the facts. What you wrote about the "authentication" of Barack's "Birth Certificate" is wrong. The state of Hawaii will NOT confirm that the "CertificatION of Live Birth" that is out on the web is authentic! There has been no document released by BHO that shows the hospital he was born in or the citizenship of both of his parents at birth. The birth certificate that he is refusing to release shows those two items. For a mere $10 he could release the document. The man is a fraud for proclaiming to be "transparent."
No they haven't. They haven't even authenticated the image of a Certification of Live Birth that was posted to Daily Kos, Stop the Smears, and Factcheck.org, among other such sites.
They've even denied issuing the COLB during 2007, which it shows as being issued, at least by some accounts.
Certified copies of State records are presumptively authentic in all courts of law. That does not mean they are not subject to challenge if there is conflicting evidence. Documents can be filed with incorrect information, happens all the time. I know a lady with 3 kids, and several grandkids, maybe even some great grandkids by now, whose long form birth certificate shows or showed her to be a he.
That of course was an innocent mistake, but sometimes the "mistakes" aren't so innocent.
2. Even assuming that Pres. Obama was illegitimate - that doesn't make the orders for her to deploy illegal. SecDef Gates, and other personnel confirmed by Congress - NOT the President - cut her orders. They are legal.
The Constitution says the President is commander in chief. The others lower down in the chain of command get their authority from him, not from being confirmed by Congress.
1. The State of Hawaii has authenticated his Certificate of Live Birth.Maybe, but with questions unanswered.
That is game, set, match.False.
Don't feed me the "he won't show the long form version" bullcrap. Not buying. Certified copies of State records are presumptively authentic in all courts of law.Not true, try studying the issue. More which COLB are you accepting? More than one has been tossed about. More, see this:
Maya Soetoro was born to Indonesian businessman Lolo Soetoro and American cultural anthropologist Ann Dunham and half-sister to the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama. While living in Indonesia, she was home schooled by her mother and then attended Jakarta International School and returned to Hawaii and attended the private Punahou School in Honolulu, Hawaii, graduating in 1988.Besides being the First Sister Maya has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth despite be born in Jakarta Indonesia. Supposedly this certificate was used by the Daily Kos to forge an Obama version. Anyone find it odd that Maya, undisputedly born in Indonesia, would have the same type of document as Barack Obama to forge?
“1. The State of Hawaii has authenticated his Certificate of Live Birth.”
No, not really. There is a piece of paper, supposedly issued by a bureacrat, which says that a birth certificate really, really does exist, cross my heart and hope to be a lying liberal piece of crap.
This piece of paper doesn’t have an actual signature on it. Someone impressed upon it a stamp that is supposed to be a replica of the aforementioned bureaucrat’s signature.
In many contexts a rubber stamp is not recognized as a legal signature. And why would an official not sign such an important document?
“Certified copies of State records are presumptively authentic in all courts of law.”
I believe that a certified copy has an embossed seal and the actual signature of the certifying official.
“2. ...SecDef Gates, and other personnel confirmed by Congress - NOT the President - cut her orders.”
Allow me to quote the relevant section of the Constitution: “(The president)... by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States...”
The president appoints these officers; the Senate can only agree or disagree. If the president occupies his office fraudulently, Shirley these appointments are invalid.
“They are legal.”
As Julius Paulus wrote, “What is right is not derived from the rule, but the rule arises from our knowledge of what is right.”
We can all cite examples of things that were both legal and despicable.
What will you do if the Bamtard orders you to fire on US Citizens? Don’t answer that publicly; just think about it, because the odds of it happening are higher than we probably realize.