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Voinovich fiery in opposing Ohio slots proposal (Ohio Nanny State Alert!)
Forbes.com ^ | 09-04-09 | JULIE CARR SMYTH

Posted on 09/04/2009 7:35:52 AM PDT by GOP_Lady

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- U.S. Sen. George Voinovich used biblical verse Thursday to blast gambling proponents, including Ohio Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland, who is an ordained minister.

Voinovich, the former Republican governor, joined forces with the Ohio Roundtable and Methodist churches to announce a lawsuit they filed Thursday at the Ohio Supreme Court against Strickland's plan to place slots-like video lottery terminals at Ohio racetracks.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: gambling; ohio; slots; voinovich
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The retiring senator said he will also help opponents defeat a ballot issue this fall proposing casinos in Ohio's four largest cities: Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati and Toledo.

Voinovich, who has been an active opponent of expanded gambling for decades, quoted the Lord's Prayer - "Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil" - at a news conference announcing the suit.

1 posted on 09/04/2009 7:35:53 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
Hey, George, may I send you a pic of me playing slots in Vegas last week? I'm sure one “evil” person. I've backed you for decades, but this nanny-statism has got to stop.

Notice where my entertainment dollars go.

2 posted on 09/04/2009 7:37:31 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Shut up Voinobitch. What a repulsive RINO who cares what you think as you’ve squandered a governorship and a senate seat just for the chance to be labeled a RINO.


3 posted on 09/04/2009 7:37:58 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Dammit, can we have a few things without some government ass telling us where it “am at” to us? If a guy wants to drop a few bucks in the slots, what is the freaking problem? The only danger is when the old lady sits down after you’ve been pumping dollars into a machine for a half hour and hits seventy thousand bucks on her third try (as happened to me).


4 posted on 09/04/2009 7:38:14 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: GOP_Lady
I am going to try to find a video of George's little presentation here and will post it.
5 posted on 09/04/2009 7:38:28 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

As an Ohioan, I am a little torn on this issue. When I go to Wheeling Downs or Mountaineer (which is rarely), the people I see playing slots are senior citizens, poor, or both. The money from gambling is supposed to go to social programs, but those on social programs gamble.

Vegas is different. I go to Vegas every year, but not to gamble. Vegas is a poor example because it is a tourist destination.


6 posted on 09/04/2009 7:40:42 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ohio, PING!


7 posted on 09/04/2009 7:51:31 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Ohio has voted 4 times on gambling in past years. Each time gambling was turned away.


8 posted on 09/04/2009 7:56:13 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: GOP_Lady

I live in Ohio too and we’ve had several casinos trying to set up in different locations. All have been defeated by voters.

The reason I found from doing marketing surveys is that people feel the gambling places are within close drive of any place in Ohio and the fact that the money never goes to the schools. Most of these places breed corruption and crime.

While I’m all for free choice of what and where people can spend their money, I, too, oppose these things. I’ve seen people buy hundreds and hundreds of scratch off tickets and lose most of it. That’s money that could be spent better elsewhere, such as if they wanted it to go to schools, then just make a donation.

This was the lie they sold Ohio when they voted for the lottery in this state. It would fund education, and yet every school district is in the red every year and begging for more.


9 posted on 09/04/2009 7:57:14 AM PDT by Catsrus
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KarlInOhio fiery in opposing Ohio slots proposal because he want legalized blackjack and poker.
10 posted on 09/04/2009 7:58:29 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: Bosco

Voinovich is just reflecting the views of his constituents. Ohioans do not want slots. We keep voting them down.


11 posted on 09/04/2009 8:07:12 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Catsrus
This was the lie they sold Ohio when they voted for the lottery in this state. It would fund education, and yet every school district is in the red every year and begging for more.

They never claimed that the lottery would fully or even mostly fund education, just that all the profits from the lottery would go to education. Education is expensive as shown by my two thousand dollar property tax bill that probably goes about 3/4 to the schools. I (or most sane people) wouldn't buy the $70/week of lottery tickets necessary to create the $1500 net lottery revenue for schools. I'll spend a few bucks when the lotto gets big (because who wants to waste their time with a mere $50 million in winnings) and I'm part of a $2/week pool.

The other problem is that money is fungible, so if the state originally allocates $1 million to a school district which then gets $100,000 of lottery allocated to that school, the state can still claim that all the lottery money went to the school even if they cut the money from the general fund to $900,000. So the school "gets" the lottery money, but some other program gets the $100,000 boost in its budget.

Also, even if the school had enough money for everything including solid gold toilets, they would claim poverty because they can't meet their budget need for platinum toilets. "Poverty" in a government program doesn't necessarily mean that they don't have enough money, just that they want more.

12 posted on 09/04/2009 8:07:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: GOP_Lady

What a jackass . . . the same marooon who cried big tears when Bolton’s name was suggested for United Nations Ambassador. Can’t wait to get this fool out of Washington . . . yeah, I know, and replaced with another buffoon.


13 posted on 09/04/2009 8:10:48 AM PDT by laweeks
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I live in Ohio. Last weekend we went to the newly opened Hollywood Casino across the border in Lawerenceburg, Indiana. We like to visit the casinos once or twice a year. The parking garage was packed full cars with OHIO license plates!

As the saying goes: “There’s no fool like an old fool”

Voinovich is an old fool.


14 posted on 09/04/2009 8:15:12 AM PDT by vortigern
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To: Catsrus
Most of these places breed corruption and crime.

Having season tickets to the Bengals or Browns is probably a bigger waste of money than an occasional trip to the casino. Everyone chooses their own form of fun and entertainment and where they want to waste their money.

I sure would like to see the "marketing surveys' that shows these places breed corruption and crime. Have you actually driven to Lawrenceburg, Indiania and seen all the new hotels, restaurants, roads and schools? If you ever go, count the Ohio license plates.

15 posted on 09/04/2009 8:30:10 AM PDT by vortigern
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That’s okay George.
Detroit needs the money.

Gamblers from Ohio will just continue coming here.


16 posted on 09/04/2009 8:32:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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"Having season tickets to the Bengals or Browns is probably a bigger waste of money "

Many of the same pols who oppose casinos which bring in revenue without taxation are the same ones supporting sweetheart deals for new sports arenas, which cost the taxpayers billions.

17 posted on 09/04/2009 8:52:49 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (If we can't get good government, then I want as little government as possible.)
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To: GOP_Lady

I wonder how much of the funding for the Ohio anti-casino movement is coming from casino owners in Indiana, West Virginia and Kentucky.


18 posted on 09/04/2009 8:56:29 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (If we can't get good government, then I want as little government as possible.)
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To: domenad
If a guy wants to drop a few bucks in the slots, what is the freaking problem?

Obviously, this isn't the problem. The problem is with people who spend their rent payments or grocery money on slot machines, and then become a burden for the rest of society.

Allowing more casinos to be built enables this behavior and, perhaps more importantly, attracts the types of people to the area that are undesireable for rebuilding cities.

19 posted on 09/04/2009 8:57:25 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Notary Sojac
which bring in revenue without taxation

Don't kid yourself. It's a tax on the perpetually stupid and obsessed.

20 posted on 09/04/2009 8:58:45 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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