Posted on 09/03/2009 9:29:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, dontcha just hate when that happens ???
Hat Tip to you.
It sure has.
Thank you ExTexasRedhead. You know of which you speak. You are right on target!
He has to turn to the kids. Even his supporters are deserting him. He's running out of audiences. You watch...jails and mental hospitals next. (LOLOL!)
0bama is inviting another civil war.
***Also, since when are our schoolchildren required to do something for the president? That would be their assignment, if a teacher somewhere decided to implement the Dept. of Education classroom ideas that were sent out. This whole thing reeks!***
I’ve seen on a few sites that the libs have dredged up a speech made by George HW Bush in 1991 to school children.
( http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=3450&year=1991&month=10 )
In it he does ask “Write me a letter — and I’m serious about this one — write me a letter about ways you can help us achieve our goals.” What the libs fail to see is this was a request, but it was not a request for the children to single out and help the President. President Bush pointedly said “us” not “me”
President Bush also did not make lesson plans and ask the teachers to put pressure on the kids and check up on them later to make sure they were working on goals and delivering results that would please the President.
We haven’t seen what Obama’s speech to the children would have said, but you can’t make me believe that he wouldn’t have stuck some crap about global warming and being green in and President Bush did not put anything political in his speech.
I don't think Alinsky had any chapters on what to do if your demonstrating and agitating won the battle. All he knew how to do was push. He didn't know ANYTHING about how to LEAD once you got to the top. Isn't that just like a liberal? Write a book, and leave half of it out.
When was is 1962? Our children couldn't be forced to see religious view? Sit down and shut up Barry.
Our school district has very tight controls when it comes to absences.
My children cannot have a day off, just because. And if they are home from school because they are sick, I MUST take them to the doctor, to get a doctor’s note. If I don’t and they have an extended illness that I did not document correctly, then I could have a difficult time insuring that my student receives credit for that semester/year in school.
It’s about control.
I can’t just pull my kids out for the day because they will get sick this year and miss days, that I cannot afford to waste because Obama wants to talk to my children.
My best option is to have them removed from the classroom for the five minute speech.
Huh? I guess you missed this last year. How could anyone vote for this smug, unpatiotic, arrogant jerk?
is there any chance that Gibbs had something in a press conf to say about this? i haven’t seen it... perhaps i’m a bit behind but to tell to the truth~~~looks like Heather Higgenbottom deputy policy director (czar # ? ) has taken the taken the fall for the Gibber, nu?
is there any chance that Gibbs had something in a press conf to say about this? i haven’t seen it... perhaps i’m a bit behind but to tell to the truth~~~looks like Heather Higgenbottom deputy policy director (czar # ? ) has taken the taken the fall for the Gibber, nu?
sorry for the double post non-intended
“Hmm. maybe Alinsky has a chapter on what to do if you become a pariah.”
The missing chapter is what to do when you become da man. Alinsky’s great at ripping a society apart—that’s what community organizers do, they come in and get people pissed off at other groups of people, always seeking a critical mass of disintegration. If only 30% of people in society are violently pissed off, it is impossible to keep that society going. That may be enough to disintegrate things to the point where the 30% can seize power. But it’s not enough to govern in a non-totalitarian state.
Hitler and Chavez took a small mandate and converted it to lifelong power—but they had to go totalitarian. I’m not sure the US system of checks and balances is ready to collapse so quickly.
Alinsky didn’t have many useful ideas about how to keep a culture and a society going except the standard utopian marxist bs. And that doesn’t work. Right now, it is no guidance at all. The standard marxist approach to this problem is to torture and kill your opponents and rape their women. That’s not much help when you have to convince a Montana blue-dog democrat to vote for single payer socialized medicine and the blue-dog actually has voters to answer to over whom Obama has little present control.
Ripping down and governing are two very different skills that almost never translate into each other.
Well said and worth reading post #36 again. This is a bunch of radicals who were able to tear down the system with a big assist from the majority of media.
Now they are the system and don’t appear to have a clue. Ironic.
The only slight reason I would have liked for this to have gone ahead before a lot of hoopla is to see what Obama's speech, as originally composed, would have been so that the outrage could have been greater after the fact. Now Obama and Co. have changed the speech and the lesson plan and we will never know how much more blatant he would have been. Now "help the President" has been changed to "Thinking about educational goals." Does a third grade kid have the ability/maturity to decide educational goals? Just a bunch of BS.
That being said, in the end this whole episode has put many parents on notice and that's a plus.
At the same time the question never asked is why this was never done by a President before. We know why any Bush speech would have been shot down (by the teachers) but, historically speaking, why did Clinton never even try this?
In the end the real folly was to be the first to give such a speech AND then have an outrageous lesson plan with activities to last for months. Bottom line: the outrageous lesson plan belied the real intent.
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