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Dying Manson follower Atkins denied parole
Reuters ^ | Sept. 3, 2009 | Dan Whitcomb

Posted on 09/02/2009 10:38:17 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Susan Atkins, a follower of mass killer Charles Manson convicted nearly four decades ago in some of the most notorious murders in U.S. history, lost her 18th bid for release on Wednesday.

Atkins -- terminally ill with brain cancer and, according to her attorney, paralyzed over much of her body -- was denied her freedom by the California Parole Board after a hearing at the prison where she is being held.

Now 61, Atkins was convicted in 1971 of taking part in seven "Manson Family" murders, including that of heavily pregnant actress Sharon Tate, the wife of filmmaker Roman Polanski.

Her death sentence was commuted to life in prison in 1972, when the California Supreme Court abolished capital punishment. Atkins will next be eligible for parole in 2012.

Manson became one of the 20th Century's most infamous criminals during the summer of 1969, when the Beatles-obsessed ex-convict directed his mostly young, female followers to murder seven people.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: boofrickinhoo; manson; mansonfamily; parole; susanatkins
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To: trumandogz

Supposedly she found Christ way back when.

She can settle all that up after they put the tag on her toe or ankle or whatever.


41 posted on 09/03/2009 12:10:00 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (--Still not Halloween yet--)
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To: Chet 99

The guy with the ponytail is her lawyer-husband.


42 posted on 09/03/2009 12:14:54 AM PDT by Gator113 (It's about stupidity, stupid. IMPEACH HERE, IMPEACH NOW.)
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To: SoldierDad

Dress her in a Plaid Prison Jumpsuit and send her to Scotland.


43 posted on 09/03/2009 12:20:21 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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To: scott7278

Yes, RTV = Remember The Victims


44 posted on 09/03/2009 12:35:11 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonyous)
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To: All

Rot in hell, bitch.


45 posted on 09/03/2009 12:48:05 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Birthers - People who insisted Sarah Palin provide a DNA test to prove Trig is hers.)
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To: elizabethgrace

Well, wonder of wonders, the California state government got something right for a change!


46 posted on 09/03/2009 1:38:20 AM PDT by mono
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sounds to me as if getting brain cancer is “the in thing” these days. All she needs to do is to say she has always been not only for abortion on demand, but also for forced abortion and ask Cardinals O’Malley and McCarrick to help her get out of prison and then to give her a big send off.


47 posted on 09/03/2009 2:54:57 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I don't think God is happy that we keep a dying older woman confined to prison.....

to the contrary, HE probably is not very happy with the total lack of forgivness or mercy or charity shown this woman....

I believe in the death penalty...... but this woman has served her time.....she's dying....let her die at home.....God will think better of us for it....

48 posted on 09/03/2009 3:08:56 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

“I don’t think God is happy that we keep a dying older woman confined to prison.....to the contrary, HE probably is not very happy with the total lack of forgivness or mercy or charity shown this woman....I believe in the death penalty...... but this woman has served her time.....she’s dying....let her die at home.....God will think better of us for it....” ~ cherry

Puke!

http://www.dennisprager.com/forgiveness.html
When Forgiveness Is a Sin
By Dennis Prager

The bodies of the three teen-age girls shot dead last December by a fellow student at Heath High School in West Paducah, Ky., were not yet cold before some of their schoolmates hung a sign announcing, “We forgive you, Mike!” They were referring to Michael Carneal, 14, the killer.

This immediate and automatic forgiveness is not surprising. Over the past generation, many Christians have adopted the idea that they should forgive everyone who commits evil against anyone, no matter how great and cruel and whether or not the evildoer repents.

The number of examples is almost as large as the number of heinous crimes. Last August, for instance, the preacher at a Martha’s Vineyard church service attended by the vacationing President Clinton announced that the duty of all Christians was to forgive Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber who murdered 168 Americans. “Can each of you look at a picture of Timothy McVeigh and forgive him?” the Rev. John Miller asked. “I have, and I invite you to do the same.”

Though I am a Jew, I believe that a vibrant Christianity is essential if America’s moral decline is to be reversed. And despite theological differences, Christianity and Judaism have served as the bedrock of American civilization. And I am appalled and frightened by this feel-good doctrine of automatic forgiveness.

This doctrine advances the amoral notion that no matter how much you hurt others, millions of your fellow citizens will forgive you. It destroys Christianity’s central moral tenets about forgiveness. Even by God, forgiveness is contingent on the sinner repenting, and it can be given only by the one sinned against.

” And if your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him,” reads Luke 17:3-4. “And if seven times of the day he sins against you, and seven times of the day turns to you saying, I repent, you shall forgive him.”

These days one often hears that “It is the Christian’s duty to forgive, just as Jesus forgave those who crucified him.” Of course, Jesus asked God to forgive those who crucified him. But Jesus never asked God to forgive those who had crucified thousands of other innocent people. Presumably he recognized that no one has the moral right to forgive evil done to others.

You and I have no right, religiously or morally, to forgive Timothy McVeigh or Michael Carneal; only those they sinned against have that right, If we are automatically forgiven no matter what we do, why repent? In fact, if we forgive everybody for all the evil they do, God and his forgiveness are unnecessary. We have substituted ourselves for God.

I host a talk-radio show, and when confronted with such arguments, some callers offered another defense: “The students were not forgiving Carneal for murdering the three students. They were forgiving him for the pain he caused them.” Such self centered thinking masquerading as a religious ideal is a good example of the moral disarray in much of religious life.

Some people have a more sophisticated defense of the forgive-every-one-everything doctrine: doing so is psychologically healthy. It brings “closure.” This is therapy masquerading as idealism: “I forgive you because I want to feel better.”

Until West Paducah, I believed that Christians will lead America’s moral renaissance. Though I still believe that, the day those students, with the support of their school administration, hung out that sign I became less sanguine. If young Christians have inherited more values from the ‘60s culture than from their religion, where can we look for help? bttt


49 posted on 09/03/2009 5:02:23 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (A Socialist becomes a Fascist the minute he tries to enforce his "beliefs" on the rest of us.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

50 posted on 09/03/2009 5:27:49 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: cherry
this woman has served her time

No she hasn't. That will be true when she's dead.

51 posted on 09/03/2009 6:58:43 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: reagan_fanatic; Travis McGee; Squantos

amen....folks can forget all that kumbaya “all is forgiven” crap...that’s who’s waiting for her

really perfect!


52 posted on 09/03/2009 7:03:30 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
how on earth did a bunch of fairly average to cute upper middle class girls

Insanity reigned in those days ... most of the riot-makers and hippies were from spoiled, upper-middle-class backgrounds. "Poor and downtrodden" they were not.

53 posted on 09/03/2009 7:03:44 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

indeed but what caused it....I was there...aged 12 but I recall that summer so well

it was the big one

Woodstock, Apollo landing, later Altamont, urban unrest...as usual and so forth..The Mets and Tom Seaver


54 posted on 09/03/2009 7:08:08 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy

We’re about the same age. I don’t completely understand it either, but almost everything that came out of that time looks (and looked) like an inversion of the natural order.


55 posted on 09/03/2009 7:13:21 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Moonman62

“I thought they might send her to Libya “

Send her to Scotland.


56 posted on 09/03/2009 7:22:46 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Good. If I recall correctly, she was one of Manson's most vicious killers.
57 posted on 09/03/2009 7:24:23 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

yep...and it sure hasn’t gotten any better


58 posted on 09/03/2009 7:56:21 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: cherry

what part of “life in prison” do you not understand?


59 posted on 09/03/2009 8:54:21 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: cherry

Tell it to the family of Sharon Tate.


60 posted on 09/03/2009 10:36:17 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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