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Who wants the economy to fail again? These guys.
newsweek.com ^ | 9/2/09 | Daniel Gross

Posted on 09/02/2009 2:29:32 PM PDT by Kartographer

Most Americans have a lot riding on the success of the government's efforts to pull the U.S. economy out of its ditch: individual investors, bankers, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Democratic politicians, and taxpayers. A somewhat smaller group has a lot riding on the failure of these efforts. I'm not simply talking about investors who are betting against the markets and who believe the recent stock-market rally is overdone. I'm talking about the Failure Caucus, a group spanning the political spectrum that has invested reputations, egos, and, in some instances, their political futures on the notion that we're in for several more years of economic trauma.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: fed
VEEEERRRRY Interesting.
1 posted on 09/02/2009 2:29:32 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer
"...we're in for several more years of economic trauma."

We're not?

2 posted on 09/02/2009 2:33:29 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Kartographer
They caused the first part to usher them into power. Now they are causing more to usher in their "fundamental change". That's who they are and what they are about.


AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

3 posted on 09/02/2009 2:33:59 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Kartographer

Gee I sure hope Socialism and Communism leads a big surge of profits and economic activity. What a Dupe.


4 posted on 09/02/2009 2:34:16 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Kartographer

” in some instances, their political futures on the notion that we’re in for several more years of economic trauma “

That’s DEFEATIST talk - haul ‘em off to the Gulag for reeducation!!


5 posted on 09/02/2009 2:36:30 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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What does he mean, “again”?

I want the economy to continue failing. I want unemployment to continue to rise.

Why? Because the government schools have churned out a population that is incapable of getting the message any other way: Obama is a Communist. Obama is a Fascist. Obama is destroying the United States, and WANTS to destroy the United States.

If the economy is “good,” the morons who voted for Obama the first time will vote for him again.


6 posted on 09/02/2009 2:36:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Kartographer; All
This is more excrement from Newweak. The criticism of people who understand that economics is not black magic and that wealth cannot be created from government programs or by economic bubbles be they Internet or Housing.

No real wealth is only created by real products and services. Just moving money back and forth doesn't do it. Just borrowing to consume doesn't do it. Black Magic doesn't do it. Running huge deficits and printing worthless money doesn't do it.

No I'm afraid the folks at Newsweek are wrong again as they are almost always wrong. Newsweek fading fast. I picked up a copy in the checkout line at the local supermarket and the damn thing seemed to be about 30 pages or so. They are finished.
7 posted on 09/02/2009 2:38:30 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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The Libs are starting to realize that we're not exiting this financial mess easily, that their handiwork has wrecked our economic prosperity.

Now, it's CYA mode.

8 posted on 09/02/2009 2:45:19 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: Kartographer
Daniel Gross creates a very idiotic choice here.

Let's say a man grabs my daughter to sacrifice to the volcano god to appease the long drought. Do I want him to fail? I know he's going to fail, what I want is my daughter back. Same goes concerning capitalism, Obama and the economy.

10 posted on 09/02/2009 2:47:03 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: Kartographer
Daniel Gross creates a very idiotic choice here.

Let's say a man grabs my daughter to sacrifice to the volcano god to appease the long drought. Do I want him to fail? I know he's going to fail, what I want is my daughter back. Same goes concerning capitalism, Obama and the economy.

11 posted on 09/02/2009 2:47:08 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: truthguy

Indeed. It’s pretty hilarious to be lectured about economics by a clown who works for an industry on (self-inflicted) life support.


12 posted on 09/02/2009 2:47:20 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: WeatherGuy

Daniel Gross attended Cornell University and holds an A.M. in American history from Harvard University

13 posted on 09/02/2009 2:50:45 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Kartographer

Not that interesting.

It is as simple as more debt doesn’t fix a debt problem.

We have a major debt problem. From the individual all they way up through the state government to the federal government.

It is plain foolish to think more borrowing is somehow going to right the ship.


14 posted on 09/02/2009 2:56:56 PM PDT by DB
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To: Kartographer

i don’t belong to any group but i’m betting and hoping for the economy to fail and send us into a depression.


15 posted on 09/02/2009 2:58:43 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: kcvl
Daniel Gross attended Cornell University and holds an A.M. in American history from Harvard University

So, we're all supposed to be impressed by this guy because he has degrees from two Ivy League schools? Argumentum ad verecundiam?

16 posted on 09/02/2009 3:13:20 PM PDT by JeffChrz (Atlas will shrug.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Actually, If the economy begins to rise anytime soon, even very slowly and stays on an upward course, it is evidence for the masses that the government “rescue” measures have worked. If the intervention has worked then there is no argument left for free markets of any sort because the government really does know how to do it better than the dumb market. So, for that reason, I hope the market is not seen as recovering for a long time yet, at least until a new Eisenhower comes along to deregulate things and get the government out of the way. The Ike Boom was the real end of the Great Depression. The War didn’t do it. The War converted it into a full-employment Depression but the economy did not improve. People were no richer. The arms industry did fabulously but the labor involved was just a degree away from slave labor. Because of controls wages did not rise. The country “lapsed” into post-war recession through Truman’s administration and until the 50s boom.


17 posted on 09/02/2009 3:58:24 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Kartographer

They were already right, or we were. This “recovery” isn’t yet, and it would have been if not for Obama’s meddling. His own forecast shows that, without the stimulus, we would have had less unemployment than we have now (he now of course claims that they were stupid when they issued their forecast — but that itself is an admission of stupidity).

We all know that eventually, we will recover — even Obama can’t destroy this country, and the American People are working even now to take back our country.

So even if this is the beginning of a long, slow recovery, we all know that the debt is higher than it should be, the recession was deeper and longer, unemployment greater, and the recovery slower than it would have been if Obama had any idea what he was doing.


18 posted on 09/02/2009 5:39:14 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JeffChrz
So, we're all supposed to be impressed by this guy because he has degrees from two Ivy League schools? Argumentum ad verecundiam?

And neither one of them has anything to do with economics!

19 posted on 09/02/2009 6:34:20 PM PDT by kcvl
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