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Stalin still looms large over eastern Europe
Financial Times ^ | August 30 2009 | Stefan Wagstyl

Posted on 09/02/2009 11:12:06 AM PDT by decimon

Vladimir Putin is due in Poland on Tuesday to stand with Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, and Polish leaders to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the start of the second world war. But this show of unity belies deep divisions about the war, its causes and its consequences. Even today, the debate remains a fraught public issue, which politicians do not leave to historians – especially not in eastern Europe.

The arguments centre on the ex-Soviet Union’s role in mankind’s bloodiest conflict, not least its responsibility for starting the fighting. Mr Putin would go a long way to easing political tensions between Russia and the European Union’s eastern members, headed by Poland, if he made some conciliatory remarks. Nobody expects an apology, just a few words showing he understands why Moscow’s view of the war is not shared by its neighbours. For many Poles, Balts and other east Europeans, Stalin is as big a villain as Hitler. Lithuania was a prime mover in a resolution passed this sum­mer by the parliamentary as­sembly of the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe, which called for a Europe-wide Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Stalinism and Nazism, echoing an earlier appeal from the European parliament.

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1 posted on 09/02/2009 11:12:06 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Stalin wanted war every bit as much as Hitler.


2 posted on 09/02/2009 11:13:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Stalin killed just as many, if not more than Hitler too. That’s kept pretty quiet though...
I wonder why?


3 posted on 09/02/2009 11:15:43 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral?)
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To: decimon

This is where the infamous Molotov/Ribbentrop (Hitler-Stalin Pact) was signed.

4 posted on 09/02/2009 11:24:10 AM PDT by AdvisorB (Obamatude could be defined by Blago as something tangible, but not quite as tangible as JJJ's offer.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Stalin was FDR and the New York Times Big Buddy!


5 posted on 09/02/2009 11:31:38 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: GOPsterinMA
Stalin killed just as many, if not more than Hitler too. That’s kept pretty quiet though...

Actually, Stalin was for far more 'deaths by government' than Hitler. Only Mao Tse-tung was a more prolific murderer.

I wonder why?

The phrase "no enemies on the left" pretty much explains it. Look up the names Antonio Gramsci and more recently, Saul Alinsky for a more detailed explanation.

6 posted on 09/02/2009 11:35:41 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: decimon

The secret codicils of the Nazi/Soviet Pact empowered Stalin to seize the Baltic states, the eastern half of Poland, western Ukraine and a large chunk of Romania, as well as making a grab for Finland (the Winter War). In return, the USSR supplied Hitler with the grain and oil that fueled the Wehrmacht’s conquest of France et al. If that’s not a partnership to start a war I don’t know what is.


7 posted on 09/02/2009 11:36:33 AM PDT by Argus (We've gone downtown to Clown Town, and that's where we'll be living from now on..)
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To: bassmaner
Actually, Stalin was for far more 'deaths by government' than Hitler. Only Mao Tse-tung was a more prolific murderer.

It's ok to mass murder, just as long as they are the same race as you.

8 posted on 09/02/2009 11:36:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: US Navy Vet; bassmaner

Exactly! Covering for their own.


9 posted on 09/02/2009 11:45:48 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral?)
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To: decimon

I love seeing lefties’ reactions to this stuff when you being it up. Many just laugh and tell you that you’re crazy.


10 posted on 09/02/2009 12:17:28 PM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: GOPsterinMA
Stalin killed just as many, if not more than Hitler too. That’s kept pretty quiet though... I wonder why?

I'm not aware that that (Stalin's progroms, killing tens of millions) is much of a secret. What makes you say this?
11 posted on 09/02/2009 2:00:44 PM PDT by Moltke
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My experience is that this is not widely taught or known. I have met people older that I am have little idea about the millions of people Stalin killed. And the youngsters have no clue at all.

Everyone knows the Hell Hitler unleashed though.

Hitler and Stalin were two sides of the same coin. Evil incarnate.

12 posted on 09/02/2009 6:39:53 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Who paid for Mary Jo Kopechne's funeral?)
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