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CA:$1 Billion Carbon-Capture Plant Planned for the Central Valley
californiaenergynews.com ^ | August 30th, 2009 | Art Mass

Posted on 09/02/2009 10:50:09 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Last week the California Energy Commission said it will consider approving a carbon-capture plant proposed by a joint venture of units of Rio Tinto Plc and BP Plc.

Dubbed the Hydrogen Energy International LLC, the venture has provided enough information to start a formal, yearlong certification process for the plant, the CEC said at its regularly scheduled meeting.

The proposed hydrogen-powered electricity generating facility for the Kern County area would capture and sequester (store) most of its carbon related emissions. The facility will be similar to the cleanest natural gas power plants, but instead of using natural gas to run its turbine electrical generators, the plant will use hydrogen. The result will be local power generation in a local area with growing power demands - enough power for over 150,000 homes - along with 90% reduction in the emission of carbon dioxide. The CO2 emissions will be captured and stored deep underground, preventing release into the atmosphere.

The proposal for the project was put forth by units of BP and Rio Tinto in 2008 and involves building the 350-megawatt carbon-capture plant in the San Joaquin Valley, roughly seven miles west of Bakersfield. Last month Occidental Petroleum said it would consider using the carbon dioxide for oil recovery and storage in its nearby Elk Hills oil field.

(Excerpt) Read more at californiaenergynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: energy; globalwarminghoax
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1 posted on 09/02/2009 10:50:09 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe they can sequester delta smelt farts. Sure, each one is just a teeny bubble, but stop the pumps, starve the farmers, and in bulk, they could probably fire up a lawnmower for half an hour.


2 posted on 09/02/2009 10:52:16 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (It's better to give a Ford to the Kidney Foundation than a kidney to the Ford Foundation.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
WTF? This is my idea of a carbon-capture plant:


3 posted on 09/02/2009 10:53:08 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Zeddicus
"Damn Liberals! ...Stop Laughing at me!


4 posted on 09/02/2009 10:56:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here’s a state that is near bankruptcy and yet they just can’t get away from the idea that they have to be the avante garde of every new idea.


5 posted on 09/02/2009 10:56:44 AM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Huh. Gee, my botany professor at university taught us that it was plants that captured carbon...


6 posted on 09/02/2009 10:57:01 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Question: where does the hydrogen that they’re going to burn come from?


7 posted on 09/02/2009 10:58:41 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Zeddicus

Thousands of acres of carbon capturing vegetables have been taken out of production in the central valley due to a lack of water. This kind of plant is really stupid and a waste of money.


8 posted on 09/02/2009 11:00:39 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

The article doesn’t say where the hydrogen comes from.

It does say it gets funding from a clean coal program.

Does anyone know from another source if this is actually a convoluted coal powered plant.


9 posted on 09/02/2009 11:01:32 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Oldexpat

CA is out of touch with reality—run by crooks.


10 posted on 09/02/2009 11:01:48 AM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: Zeddicus
Not sure...tried to figure that out though....

I think they had to have that in the title to get money from Obama ...350 million....or so!

11 posted on 09/02/2009 11:02:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Currently, global hydrogen production is 48% from natural gas, 30% from oil, and 18% from coal; water electrolysis accounts for only 4%.

It will be interesting to watch this.

I suppose Obama won’t allow the US to derive its own Hydrogen, either.


12 posted on 09/02/2009 11:02:02 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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Even water electrolysis requires energy input to seperate the H2 from the O - more energy then you get back when you burn the hydrogen.

If you are just going to burn it, hydrogen is not an energy source - it's a storage media, and one that is horribly inefficient to use.

Obviously this all changes, however, if we figure out how to control nuclear fusion.

13 posted on 09/02/2009 11:08:52 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Zeddicus
"This is my idea of a carbon-capture plant: "

Doesn't provide union jobs for Democrat voters.

14 posted on 09/02/2009 11:09:57 AM PDT by blam
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There’s a total waste of $1 billion dollars.


15 posted on 09/02/2009 11:10:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Where the hell is californistan going to get a billion bucks while at the same time, is paying their vendors with IOU’s?


16 posted on 09/02/2009 11:12:44 AM PDT by Texas resident ( It's us against them. And we're on our own.)
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To: blam
Doesn't provide union jobs for Democrat voters.

Ironic, eh? You'd think the forestry industry would be considered the ultimate "green job". A renewable energy source that, as a function of its production, sequesters C02.

God, liberals are stupid.

17 posted on 09/02/2009 11:14:25 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Where are they going to get all the Hydrogen? And how are they going to power that process?


18 posted on 09/02/2009 11:19:05 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Zeddicus; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; ...
WTF? This is my idea of a carbon-capture plant

Bravo !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

19 posted on 09/02/2009 11:21:08 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AFreeBird
Isn't it incredible what passes for "journalism" and "news" these days?

Here we have an article from an operation called "California Energy News", and they completely avoid the single most important aspect of this entire proposal: where are they going to get the hydrogen?

A simple, obvious question that every Joe Sixpack on Free Republic immediately thinks of when they see the word, "hyrdogen".

We're not living in the "Information Age", we're living in the Propaganda Age.

20 posted on 09/02/2009 11:25:03 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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