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Democracy is dead ... lobbyists rule America-----16-point manifesto .....
MarketWatch ^ | Sep 1, 2009, 10:42 a.m. EST | Paul B. Farrell

Posted on 09/01/2009 9:11:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 09/01/2009 9:11:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gee, and every time I point something like this out, I’m told that lobbying is “First Amendment Free Speech”...


2 posted on 09/01/2009 9:18:55 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: All
Related thread:

No Dead Parrots Here ("It all began when Tanenhaus published 'Conservatism is Dead'")

3 posted on 09/01/2009 9:19:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bb.bbbu...bu..b.bbb.bbbu....bbb...but, I thought John McCain and Russ Feingold fixed this problem several years ago?


4 posted on 09/01/2009 9:21:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Yes, folks, democracy is dead."

Democracy is nothing more than mob rule and it should be dead.

We used to have a constitutional republic, but 50+ years of government schools has everyone believing we live in a 'democracy' as if that's the highest possible form of government. Sheesh.

5 posted on 09/01/2009 9:21:22 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Until it doesn’t cost millions of dollars to buy...I mean get elected to...a public office, lobbyists will always get their representative in.


6 posted on 09/01/2009 9:21:58 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: BikerJoe

Did you read the one about Matel lobbying for the anti-lead in toys legislation, and then got themselves exempt from it?

A classic.


7 posted on 09/01/2009 9:23:34 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

In case you didn’t here it is: http://www.theagitator.com/2009/08/30/wow-21/


8 posted on 09/01/2009 9:26:25 AM PDT by DManA
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To: GourmetDan

Absolutely correct! Democracy’s don’t work. REPUBLIC’S work and we are a Republic. You don’t hear that much any more. We need to get back to our Constitution and start over if necessary. Get rid of all the laws that our politicians have put in and start over.


9 posted on 09/01/2009 9:26:29 AM PDT by RC2
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GourmetDan wrote: “Yes, folks, democracy is dead.”
Democracy is nothing more than mob rule and it should be dead. We used to have a constitutional republic, but 50+ years of government schools has everyone believing we live in a ‘democracy’ as if that’s the highest possible form of government. Sheesh.

..... SPOT ON !!!!!


10 posted on 09/01/2009 9:26:36 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Democracy should die. A Constitutional Republic is what we had, and should work to regain.


11 posted on 09/01/2009 9:29:09 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is my answer to his column

http://bluelori.blogspot.com/2009/08/he-makes-good-point-restoring-republic.html


12 posted on 09/01/2009 9:29:28 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What we need is an underground site giving us names and addresses of lobbyists.

I’m serious.


13 posted on 09/01/2009 9:30:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He’s so wrong.

If Congress is controlled by lobbyists for the rich, why is so much of the spending in the form of programs for the poor (and middle class)? ENTITLEMENTS are the biggest item in the federal budget.

Yes there are a lot of lobbyists on the Hill. Of all stripes. University lobbyists. Patients lobbyists. Church lobbyists. All sorts of do-gooders have lobbyists. In fact, *some* of these do-gooder lobbyists do more damage than the corporate lobbyists.


14 posted on 09/01/2009 9:37:03 AM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The problem is that some folks confuse “republic” with “democracy” and this is what hurts it for this country.


15 posted on 09/01/2009 9:37:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("God Is Great, Beer Is Good, People Are Crazy"-Billy Currington :)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/shows/show_668436.mp3

Listen to this discussion, if you have not already.

Google Rodney Glass and Joyce Rosenwald for additional information and research.

We’ve been pwned since 1913 and the oligopoly, plutocracy, cabal, monopoly all-in-one — a private club of America’s richest few on Wall Street, in Washington and in Corporate America are the ONLY ones (until you listen to the above) who know it.

http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/shows/show_668436.mp3
MUST be heard, round the world. Knowing what to do and which Court to file our lawsuits in is the ONLY way we can win against that oligarchy of elitist rich few. And WE WILL WIN in the end.


16 posted on 09/01/2009 9:40:15 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (If you cannot make them see the light, make them feel the heat. ~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Money is speech.
Money talks.
Politicians listen.

PACmen rule.


17 posted on 09/01/2009 9:49:57 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We never had a democracy, we had a Republic.


18 posted on 09/01/2009 10:44:11 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Wolfie

That’s why I’m in favor of term limits. It’s a lot harder to have to keep buying new politicians, than to keep the same old ones that are already bought.


19 posted on 09/01/2009 10:46:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Da Coyote
"What we need is an underground site giving us names and addresses of lobbyists. I’m serious."

Can't we "bing" something like, "Names of lobbists in Washington?"

20 posted on 09/01/2009 10:50:30 AM PDT by redhead (Demand that congress abide by the 10th Amendment. O-care is ILLEGAL.)
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