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Energy saving light bulbs offer dim future
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 29 Aug 2009 | Richard Gray and Julia McWatt

Posted on 08/30/2009 5:43:44 PM PDT by kingattax

Energy saving light bulbs are not as bright as their traditional counterparts and claims about the amount of light they produce are "exaggerated", the European Union has admitted.

Soon they will be the only kind of light bulb allowed, but now officials in Brussels have admitted that energy-saving bulbs are not as bright as the old-fashioned kind they are replacing.

Soon they will be the only kind of light bulb allowed, but now officials in Brussels have admitted that energy-saving bulbs are not as bright as the old-fashioned kind they are replacing.

From tomorrow a Europe-wide ban on traditional incandescent bulbs will begin to be rolled out, with a ban on 100W bulbs and old-style frosted or pearled bulbs.

Buyers of the main type of energy-saving bulb, compact fluorescent lamps (CFLs), are told on the packaging that they shine as brightly as an old-fashioned bulb. For example, an 11W CFL is labelled as being the equivalent of a 60W incandescent bulb.

However, the European Commission, which was responsible for the ban, has now conceded that this is "not true" and that such claims by manufacturers are "exaggerated".

The Sunday Telegraph has conducted its own tests on level of illuminance provided by light bulbs from different manufacturers to see whether their claims stand up to scrutiny.

We found that under normal household conditions, using a single lamp to light a room, an 11W low-energy CFL produced only 58 per cent of the illumination of an "equivalent" 60W bulb – even after a 10-minute "warm-up".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; greens; lightbulbs
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1 posted on 08/30/2009 5:43:45 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

This is an easy thing to test.

Which means they lied.


2 posted on 08/30/2009 5:45:44 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: kingattax

Lied to once again by the left and the enviro-nazis.


3 posted on 08/30/2009 5:45:55 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: kingattax

I’m a crocheter and cross stitcher. You cannot see with those stupid CFL’s.


4 posted on 08/30/2009 5:46:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: kingattax
This makes sense to me. I travel a lot on business and most all of the hotel rooms I stay in are equipped with the new style bulbs.

The rooms are always dark, it's very difficult to read — the only way is to use the desk light that you can pull down right onto the reading surface.

There's often this odd and annoying flickering, it may be part of the warm-up cycle, that's totally irritating.

5 posted on 08/30/2009 5:49:23 PM PDT by WL-law
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To: kingattax

Ever notice these same eco-freaks do not address mercury or other toxic components that must be managed during disposal.

What would you expect from the butt boy Euro-trash, flying around Uranus anyway?


6 posted on 08/30/2009 5:50:04 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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However, the European Commission, which was responsible for the ban, has now conceded that this is "not true" and that such claims by manufacturers are "exaggerated".

No s**t, Sherlock! You have to be blind or stupid not to notice this! I've found that I need to use at the very least the next step up in order to get the right amount of light... For instance, when I replace a 60 watt incandescent bulb with a CFL, I wind up going with either the 75 watt "equiv" CFL (in multi-bulb ceiling fixtures, if they'll fit), or more commonly in single bulb lamps, the 100 watt equiv. It still saves some energy, but nowhere near as much as advertised.

Mark

7 posted on 08/30/2009 5:50:23 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

My local Wal-Mart still has plenty of incandescents on the shelf.
I would think most folks could afford to stockpile them until better technology comes along.

One thing “they” never mention is that the watts burned helps heat your house in the cooler weather. Perhaps not cost effective, but a benefit that has to be factored in to make a correct analysis.


8 posted on 08/30/2009 5:51:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Parley Baer
Lied to once again by the left and the enviro-nazis.

Never the less, they do save energy and produce less heat. Advantages known before there were any enviro-nazis.

9 posted on 08/30/2009 5:51:40 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: WL-law

Hydropower.


10 posted on 08/30/2009 5:52:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kingattax

I bought a lifetime supply of incandescent bulbs last year.


11 posted on 08/30/2009 5:52:18 PM PDT by blam
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To: nascarnation
One thing “they” never mention is that the watts burned helps heat your house in the cooler weather. Perhaps not cost effective, but a benefit that has to be factored in to make a correct analysis.

Good for the winter but bad for the summer.

12 posted on 08/30/2009 5:52:41 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: kingattax

I’ve been buying value-pack 60 watt bulbs. Getting stocked up.


13 posted on 08/30/2009 5:52:44 PM PDT by sneakers (Where'd my tag line go?)
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To: kingattax

That was obvious to me. I use 20 watt low energy bulbs where I would have used a 60 watt standard bulb before. I also managed to get 9 of the standard 100 Watt bulbs before they banned them.


14 posted on 08/30/2009 5:53:02 PM PDT by protest1
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To: kingattax

I hope the techknowlgy of the L.E.Ds improve and we can say goodbye to the CFLs


15 posted on 08/30/2009 5:54:49 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: kingattax

I have always thought they kind of just glowed in the dark!


16 posted on 08/30/2009 5:54:51 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: MarkL

CFLs will be ancient history in two years time. Mark my words markL. LEDs will take their place.


17 posted on 08/30/2009 5:55:02 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: kingattax

Typical liberal hype.

Keep people “in the dark” while you implement your agenda.

remind anyone of health care?


18 posted on 08/30/2009 5:56:13 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: ColdWater

true but at least at my latitude, we use the indoor lights a lot more in winter


19 posted on 08/30/2009 5:56:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: kingattax
Yah, but the eye's sensitivity to light is not linear.

We've been using CFLs in this house for many years, expanding their use as the light quality improves (the ones from a decade ago, still burning, are definitely inferior from what's available today) and are happy with them, their energy savings and effect on the wallet.

And by the way, our thermostat is set at 64F occupied, 58F night/unoccupied (we don't have A/C, only heat). If you are a compleat culture-Nazi and don't like our lower-cost lifestyle, demanding inefficient lighting and overheated houses from us, please don't come visit us.

It's a free country, right -- or is it?

20 posted on 08/30/2009 5:57:05 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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