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Jet crashes at Polish air show, two dead [SU-27]
ninemsn.com.au ^ | Aug 31 2009 | AP

Posted on 08/30/2009 2:34:34 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

A Belarusian fighter jet has crashed during an air show in central Poland, killing both pilots on board the two-seater plane, officials said.

The Su-27 jet went down while performing manoeuvres on Sunday at a festival in Radom, 105km south of Warsaw.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airshow; planecrash; poland
Footage broadcast on state television in Poland
1 posted on 08/30/2009 2:34:35 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

ouch


2 posted on 08/30/2009 2:39:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com .. for the love of Lazamataz someone go to my site!! *sob*)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Another recent Su-27 news item:

Killed Pilot Called Su-27 Unsafe
18 August 2009
The Moscow Times
Air Force pilot Igor Tkachenko, who was killed in a midair collision over the weekend, had expressed concern about the safety of the fighter jets he flew in a 2005 interview.

Tkachenko, 45, the leader of the elite Russian Knights flying group, died Sunday when a Su-27 hit his Su-27 during rehearsals over the Moscow region for the MAKS air show.

"The planes that the Air Force sent us … could not be used by the combat forces," Tkachenko told the defense journal Independent Military Review on June 3, 2005. "I've flown the aircraft and would not put another pilot behind the wheel. It's not safe."

He said the jets' pedals and engines did not work properly then and needed adjustment.

Crash investigators believe the crash was caused by pilot error or a mechanical malfunction.

The Defense Ministry said Monday that Tkachenko would be posthumously rewarded with a prestigious state award.

3 posted on 08/30/2009 2:45:34 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Kennedy complained at 2:55 am to the hotel owner that he had been awoken by a noisy party.)
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To: GeronL
ouch

I doubt it.

Quick and painless.

4 posted on 08/30/2009 2:47:00 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Looks a lot like the Thunderbird crash a couple years ago at Mountain Home. That pilot didn’t have his altimeter properly adjusted and entered a loop at too low an altitude. The Thunderbird pilot was able to eject just before the crash.


5 posted on 08/30/2009 2:50:06 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Berlin_Freeper

He he was that subconsious of the piece of craps he was flying then i dob’t it was pilot error.
looks like he had little thrust to me.
i gotta look at it again.

RIP


6 posted on 08/30/2009 2:50:53 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Authorities are not sure what caused the crash?

What are they blithering idiots…its called Physical Aerodynamic Motion or Aerodynamic Forces.

What is not to figure-out, that they were not high enough having enough space to work in, or how about the ground reached up and hit the jet. This happens every now-and-again…and they don’t know why it happened…fr1g@n idiots.


7 posted on 08/30/2009 2:53:11 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: ntmxx
yup it looks like he tried to pull a crazy maneuver just a wee bit too low to the ground.
8 posted on 08/30/2009 2:55:32 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"I've flown the aircraft and would not put another pilot behind the wheel.

No wonder its unsafe. They're using steering wheels to fly them.

9 posted on 08/30/2009 3:00:22 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Crash investigators believe the crash was caused by pilot error or a mechanical malfunction.

Now that is really narrowing the field isn't it.

No SAM involvement at the airshow?

10 posted on 08/30/2009 3:00:56 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Their planes cant fly and their subs cant submerse.


11 posted on 08/30/2009 3:20:42 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: blackminorca
Their planes cant fly and their subs cant submerse.

Oh, I'm sure they can submerse just fine.

It's getting back up that's the difficulty.

12 posted on 08/30/2009 3:25:35 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Lessons learned: Never do a 1000 foot diameter loop at 800 feet.


13 posted on 08/30/2009 3:28:41 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Crash investigators believe the crash was caused by pilot error or a mechanical malfunction.

Well that narrows it to obvious.

14 posted on 08/30/2009 3:43:52 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Local news tells it that these pilots were heros. They stayed with the jet as it flew over the nearby village and did not eject until they could crash it into the one spot where there were no homes. I was supposed to go today.

Nobody was injured.
Contrast that with the Ukrainian pilot in L’viv who ejected and let his plane crash into the crowd killing nearly 100 people and wounding many, many more.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ae8ca_4407

EXTREMELY GRAPHIC video filmed at the scene:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a98_1177225680
Not for the easily upset.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 3:59:15 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: mowowie

Took about 8 seconds (I estimate) from when it hit to when the smoke shot up. That’s a while. They moved pretty far to the right from the hit region. Looks as if they were at about a 60 degree angle from the ground when they went behind the trees.


16 posted on 08/30/2009 5:03:27 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: MediaMole
Looks a lot like the Thunderbird crash a couple years ago at Mountain Home. That pilot didn’t have his altimeter properly adjusted and entered a loop at too low an altitude. The Thunderbird pilot was able to eject just before the crash.

The old parabola problem.

17 posted on 08/30/2009 5:14:22 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: MediaMole

You mean this crash?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Crash.arp.600pix.jpg


18 posted on 08/30/2009 8:11:51 PM PDT by Chewbacca (He isn't POTUS until he shows a birth certificate. Refer to him only as Barry until he does.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"The Defense Ministry said Monday that Tkachenko would be posthumously rewarded with a prestigious state award."

Oh well then.....

19 posted on 08/31/2009 5:09:48 AM PDT by 101voodoo (OBAMA- THE OPIATE FOR THE DUMB ASSES)
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