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To: oldfart; Eagle50AE

I have also been giving this subject a lot of thought.

I don’t think they would even consider totally shutting down the internet. They use it themselves, and the commerce loss would kill their own procurement systems and would kill their own communications too.

I think they would ‘filter’ IP addresses - smart data switches can just ignore certain IP’s. Think of it like a large version of a firewall.

CB is useless for mass communication as is HAM radio (how many have shortwave radios today?) Plus, they are excruciatingly slow for data transmission.

Bulletin Boards are way too slow due to the limitations of dial-up, and limited to one connection per phone line at a time.

Personally, I think we need some dedicated Patriots who are adept at packet radio (Hams use this), Repeaters (like Hams use on 2 meter and other freq.), Ethernet networking, wireless WIFI to develop a National Freedom Wireless Network.

If we could set up a peer to peer Ethernet wireless network (many of these are capable of 1-5 miles), the software is already out there for scanning to find possible connections in any area. We would be able to use server software (freeware) like Abyss, you could feed multiple mirrors that would update around the country fairly quickly.

None of this would pass through any controlled data switches, and would be very very hard to trace without thousands of RDF monitors around the country, and even then, they would mix right in with all the other wireless devices out there.

Wasn’t that the idea of going digital on TV? To free up bandwidth for public wireless internet. Maybe the 2.4 or 5 Gigahertz bands would serve. where no license is required.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?


70 posted on 08/29/2009 6:24:29 PM PDT by DelaWhere (When politicians fear the People = Liberty. When the People fear politicians = TYRANNY)
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To: DelaWhere

Good thoughts! Communications could be encrypted, making it a private network, and it would be independent of public infrastructures.

The trick would be establishing peer to peer wireless connections that cover the distances. Ideally, there would be enough p2p connections to create some redundancy.


76 posted on 08/29/2009 6:32:26 PM PDT by MV=PY
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To: DelaWhere

Just what would you suggest for an average person that knows little about all this complicated sounding packet switching stuff?

Basic? I can go buy a CB right now, I could peruse a good deal on fleabay, or I could rely on some expert advice. otherwise I’m going to act like John Connor in Terminator 3 here and just wing it all on my own, my own broadcast to whoever cares to listen on whatever equipment I can procure.


80 posted on 08/29/2009 6:35:26 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: DelaWhere

Ham radio can be used:
1. To broadcast on HF (40m) and received by HF radios by public (replacing AM)
2. To setup network for information exchange and feed the broadcast.
3. HF bands can be used for wider coverage, VHF/UHF for local.
4.VHF/UHF repeaters can be used to network coast to coast but subject to shutdown, location of repeaters is known.
5 HF stations can operated mobile, harder to catch.
6. Traffic can be done by voice, packet (computer files, CW).
7. Possible to tie in with CB - 10m
8. It was done in Czechoslovakia during Soviet invasion, Russians were totally surprised, but then politicians signed “normalization” and hams were hanged to dry.
9. Ham radio with its wide spread, mobility, independence from switched networks is the medium least controllable.
10. For short range communications CB and UHF walkie-talkies are great.


104 posted on 08/29/2009 7:17:54 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: DelaWhere

I agree, they can’t shut down the internet. After all, state run commerce, state run banks and the IRS are all dependent on the net. But if we are moving in a totalitarian direction,
the Obamunists will probably act like the PRC. Therefore, what do people in China struggling for liberty do? I know they used internet/twitter in Iran, but what type of systems do these people employ now?


107 posted on 08/29/2009 7:27:49 PM PDT by grumpygresh
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