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Patriot Emergency Communications System Needed

Posted on 08/29/2009 3:54:17 PM PDT by oldfart

One of the nice things about internet bulletin boards is the anonymity of each poster. Of course it isn’t perfect since the board owner has enough information to positively identify everyone and TPTB can (and probably will) demand that data whenever they choose. In the meantime there is one way our paranoia can be used against us.

We all swear that our “line in the sand” is the confiscation of our guns. We say that if and when it happens we will get the word out on the internet and thus mobilize thousands of patriots.

Good idea. But what if there is no internet? What if the President decides to use his power to turn off private access to the net before the confiscation begins? How will we notify others of what is happening?

One thing this administration has taught me is to never assume they’re doing anything abstractly… they always have a good reason for what they do and when they do it. After years in the Illinois legislature furthering gun control Obama has spent eight months in the Presidency without even so much as trying to push a gun control bill. But in the last week we’ve heard that at least one Federal judge (from Chicago, I believe)believes gun registration is Constitutional and now we see a bill introduced to give the President new powers to control the internet in the event of some ill-defined “cyber emergency.” Where other Presidents have – when once elected – generally ignored the organizations that helped them get elected, this President is advertising for “recruits” to continue working for the “change” he espoused.

I wonder what color their shirts will be, brown?

So suppose TPTB discover (or manufacture) some sort of ‘cyber emergency,’ shut down servers all over the country and then begin kicking in doors. How do we get the word out? We’ll still have computers but they’ll be severely handicapped. We used to be able to simply call up the other guy’s computer and converse back and forth. But we had the “other guy’s” phone number then too – and his name! Now, in our paranoia, we’ve hidden behind screen names that usually don’t even describe us very well. One name that I see on several boards is “LYCAN.” How would I contact him without the internet? What if he were the first one to be raided? How would any of us know in time to be ready for our own “knock on the door?”

We need some sort of phone tree where each of us has two or more numbers to contact if the balloon goes up. Perhaps there’s some way we could utilize those cheap throwaway phones I see at the supermarket checkout line. Comments?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commmunistcoup; gunconfiscation; internetcontrol
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To: bigbob

whoa...this is sounding like a prelude to the Iranian nitemare with no communications out.


181 posted on 08/30/2009 8:45:30 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: _Jim
Electronic emission if that works for you.
182 posted on 08/30/2009 8:58:58 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: Eye of Unk
CB would be ok but range is limited and the number of people involved would be large. It would need a great deal of redundancy and management.
183 posted on 08/30/2009 9:00:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: PLMerite
Consider the internet will be down for citizens use. Now ham transmissions to a central set of several stations and using digital burst technology would be one way.
184 posted on 08/30/2009 9:03:56 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

CB is better I think because almost anyone can get one be it mobile, handheld or base station and can be used immediately. Not everyone can erect a tower or have the room for large antennas. Or learn HAM, I am not interested in having to go through any federal documentation process. And I feel that that idea should be thrown out the window, unacceptable in this current state of times.

A car can have a concealed antenna or a removable one, its about keeping things local, I would like to have a long range radio setup but anything thats really going to affect me will have to happen nearby. I can offer no assistance to someone hundreds of miles away, but I can within an hours drive.


185 posted on 08/30/2009 9:13:50 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: _Jim
I agree that short duration, irregularly scheduled transmission will assure there's no precise locate.

However, the elipse you refer to can be identified fairly quickly once the operators KNOW that's a transmission they want to located.

Air assets can do the rest. See the previous posts notes on Predator. I have worked with Predator operators.

186 posted on 08/30/2009 9:27:41 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: mad_as_he$$
Electronic emission if that works for you.
How does it work aboard the drone? Does it use a pair of crossed ferrite loopsticks and a sense antenna (to remov the 180 deg ambiguity that crossed loopsticks present) tuned to the band of interest (80 Meters/3.5 to 4 MHz in this case)?

What's the resolution bandwidth (RBW) of the receiver - can it resolve two or more signals within 200 Hz of each other (doubtful)?

You know, it's one thing to look for the uplink of a satphone being used by an Al Qaeda member (the signal will be somewhat broad, isolated by itself and therefore unique as viewed spectra-wise and posses definite directional properties to a 'monopulse' antenna design), quite another to go weak-signal sniffing for something 200 Hz away from a strong broadcast carrier on the HF bands (like where a QPSK31 transmission might hide) ...

187 posted on 08/30/2009 9:30:23 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: Paige

People still buy CB radios? Really?


188 posted on 08/30/2009 9:33:35 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Paige

In rural areas some portable 12v. low-wat variable-frequency FM transmitters could help fill in some gaps. I’m talking about actual “suitcase” radio stations. Less than $1,000 if you hunt sources. I’ve got two “suitcase” transmitting stations that ran me about $2,500 each, but those are up-scale.


189 posted on 08/30/2009 9:38:10 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Mariner
Air assets can do the rest. See the previous posts notes on Predator
See follow-on post to his previous. You keep assuming the 'rabbit' doesn't have eyes, ears, can't listen for/view the opfor which have their own unique RF signatures (radio traffic, telemetry; useful for 'early warning' of opfor in the area) ... I'm getting strong impressions you've done zero field work in the area of HF DF ... filing reports, making sure the gear works (maintenance) is a far cry from actually having iden'td, tracked down and located an HF source, of any kind (carrier, impulse noise, foreign broadcast source, etc).
190 posted on 08/30/2009 9:38:36 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: MinorityRepublican

When that point comes, the nation is going to need some big-signature John Hancocks, ‘cause they’re going to get our names anyway.


191 posted on 08/30/2009 9:39:42 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: _Jim
Do you have any knowledge of DSP and how the F-22’s radar works?
192 posted on 08/30/2009 9:47:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: John Leland 1789

YEP, Radio Shack sells them. :)


193 posted on 08/30/2009 9:53:22 AM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Dodge; pls address the issue at hand.


194 posted on 08/30/2009 9:56:00 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: All
thought of this this morning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homing_pigeon

1860, Paul Reuter, who later founded Reuters press agency, used a fleet of over 45 pigeons to deliver news and stock prices between Brussels and Aachen, the terminals of early telegraph lines.

The outcome of the Battle of Waterloo was also first delivered by a pigeon to England. During the Franco-Prussian War pigeons were used to carry mail between besieged Paris and the French unoccupied territory

Possibly the first regular air mail service in the world was Mr. Howie's Pigeon-Post service from the Auckland New Zealand suburb of Newton to Great Barrier Island, starting in 1896. Certainly the world’s first 'airmail' stamps were issued for the Great Barrier Pigeon-Gram Service from 1898 to 1908.[11]

They were used extensively during World War I, and one homing pigeon, Cher Ami, was awarded the French Croix de guerre for his heroic service in delivering 12 important messages, despite having been very badly injured.

During World War II, the Irish Paddy and the American G.I. Joe both received the Dickin Medal, and were among 32 pigeons to receive this medallion, for their gallantry and bravery in saving human lives with their actions.

Eighty-two homing pigeons were dropped into Holland with the First Airborne Division Signals as part of Operation Market Garden in World War II. The pigeons' loft was located in London which would have required them to fly 240 miles to deliver their messages.

Also in World War II, hundreds of homing pigeons with the Confidential Pigeon Service were airdropped into northwest Europe to serve as intelligence vectors for local resistance agents.

might work in places where people are used to seeing farm animals ect

195 posted on 08/30/2009 9:59:36 AM PDT by Charlespg (The Mainstream media is the enemy of democracy destroy the mainstream media)
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To: All

Also, if only part of the interwebs is shutdown, a good way of communicating (lifted from our Jihadi friends):

Have a throwaway email address, like Yahoo. Have your group all have the password. Compose messages to each other as DRAFTS (do NOT send them) and leave them in the drafts folder. The recipient’s code name should be in the To: line. The message should be PGP encrypted with a MINIMUM 2048 bit key (do NOT use AES for symmetric ciphers or El Gamal as the asymmetric cipher. Trust me on this. Use Blowfish/Twofish).

If the account is blown, your IP address will be shared, so ‘tis best to access the yahoo mailbox from a FOREIGN anonymizer. If it is blown, you’ll know because they will shut it down because they shouldn’t be able to crack the encryption, unless the N$A is a little better than I remember.


196 posted on 08/30/2009 10:05:34 AM PDT by ajwharton (FL GOP Pollwatcher, ACORN-buster)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Not to mention carrier pigeons. Seems to me they’ve been in service to our country before :)


197 posted on 08/30/2009 10:14:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Jim had to turn over names before for which reason?


198 posted on 08/30/2009 10:22:09 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


199 posted on 08/30/2009 10:24:25 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: mewzilla

see post #195

and a 512mb or 1gb SAN DISK SD Card only weighs 0.1 oz


200 posted on 08/30/2009 10:25:37 AM PDT by Charlespg (The Mainstream media is the enemy of democracy destroy the mainstream media)
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