Posted on 08/29/2009 3:54:17 PM PDT by oldfart
One of the nice things about internet bulletin boards is the anonymity of each poster. Of course it isn’t perfect since the board owner has enough information to positively identify everyone and TPTB can (and probably will) demand that data whenever they choose. In the meantime there is one way our paranoia can be used against us.
We all swear that our “line in the sand” is the confiscation of our guns. We say that if and when it happens we will get the word out on the internet and thus mobilize thousands of patriots.
Good idea. But what if there is no internet? What if the President decides to use his power to turn off private access to the net before the confiscation begins? How will we notify others of what is happening?
One thing this administration has taught me is to never assume they’re doing anything abstractly… they always have a good reason for what they do and when they do it. After years in the Illinois legislature furthering gun control Obama has spent eight months in the Presidency without even so much as trying to push a gun control bill. But in the last week we’ve heard that at least one Federal judge (from Chicago, I believe)believes gun registration is Constitutional and now we see a bill introduced to give the President new powers to control the internet in the event of some ill-defined “cyber emergency.” Where other Presidents have – when once elected – generally ignored the organizations that helped them get elected, this President is advertising for “recruits” to continue working for the “change” he espoused.
I wonder what color their shirts will be, brown?
So suppose TPTB discover (or manufacture) some sort of ‘cyber emergency,’ shut down servers all over the country and then begin kicking in doors. How do we get the word out? We’ll still have computers but they’ll be severely handicapped. We used to be able to simply call up the other guy’s computer and converse back and forth. But we had the “other guy’s” phone number then too – and his name! Now, in our paranoia, we’ve hidden behind screen names that usually don’t even describe us very well. One name that I see on several boards is “LYCAN.” How would I contact him without the internet? What if he were the first one to be raided? How would any of us know in time to be ready for our own “knock on the door?”
We need some sort of phone tree where each of us has two or more numbers to contact if the balloon goes up. Perhaps there’s some way we could utilize those cheap throwaway phones I see at the supermarket checkout line. Comments?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Radio_Service
Also:
Get a shortwave receiver, preferably one that also uses batteries and a hand crank. You don't have to have a license to listen, nor do you need a big outside antenna.
Get a voice-activated recorder and plug it into your HF receiver to monitor a freq for broadcasts when you're not able.
Pay cash to purchase things. Don't buy everything at once or in the same store. Don't be conspicuous. Don't shop anywhere near where you live. Don't give personal information, or at least not the truth. Don't go back to that store ever. Don't mail in the warranty card.
At least, that's what I've heard.
Wow, that looks cool. Man are you wired or what! Dit Dit Dit Dah!
I haven’t read all the posts, my apologies if any of this was already covered.
Oathkeepers
What did they finally find? I'm especially interested in whether they were just showing they could...or if they were actually transmitting information.Well, they eventually found the source, but, again, it was a cooperative source in that it wasn't 'running and hiding' and had a very deterministic nature. That makes things a LOT easier. Compare that to a commercial interferering source on UHF that took me a couple years to finally (1st) identify (correlate with a source) and then locate. It was sporadic, non-predictable, and slightly beyond the 'radio horizon' so tropospheric ducting on occasion would enhance it (if you can't 'beam' it except from up on the tower where the main repeater ant is, it makes things difficult).
Anyway, they did find the source for Sam.
Full story here: Sam
Speaking of getting a shortwave (I have an inexpensive one). Do you think that selective censorship will force a conservative organization to go offshore and send information to the public. Everyone remembers VOA during the cold war and BBC during WW2.
Could be. Someone could even set up an automated transmitter outside of the country and zip programming to it over the internet. The possibilities are limited only by one’s imagination (and pocketbook).
Are you not familiar with military HFDF equipments and facilities? CDAA elephant cages?
Yes, they'll be brown... What color will we wear to recognize each other?
HAM radio might be the answer. If something like this does happen, they’ll take out Rush, Hannity, Beck etc. Small ham radio - might just work ...
The internet says there are no more of the great HFDF systems in use by the US Navy. FRD-10 is dead.
I"m wondering if they replaced them with something better...or just abandoned the concept as HF faded from military comms?
Bump for security!
>>>What, no R-390 ?<<<
LOL - Now that brings back some memories.
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I believe that the communication system needs to be established using ham and things that move all the time like trucks, planes and trains. It needs to be extablished NOW and be up and running on a proof basis weekly. I also beleive that plans need to be put into place NOW that take all of the possible shutdown that 0 can do into account. BTW sat phones are out also.
Are you not familiar with military HFDF equipments and facilities? CDAA elephant cages?Yes; need you ask? (You haven't been able to deduce I'm a student as well as practitioner of this 'art'?)
The question/the subject you have to be concerned with is: "What are the accuracy limits" of these and other HF DF systems at-distance (Wullenweber or "Circularly Disposed Antenna Array -CDAA- arrays don't exist every 250 km apart in a 'grid' across America, not yet anyway). Again, I have to come back the issue of 'ambiguity of bearing' due to HF propagation characteristics (skywave-groundwave interference effects; are you unaware of these effects?).
Isolating a lone operator in a residential area with a bearing (or two bearings) at distance is going to give you a circle or 'ellipse' miles across to search with and again I have to come back and underscore the fact that you are going to be in search of uncooperative sources (literally: sources transmitting _not_ in a predetermined, deterministic manner like a Yosemite Sam) who are most likely using wire dipoles (which can be made hidden from the street) making visual ident from the street practically impossible ... couple that with the fact these 'rabbits' have eyes and ears and could hear air assets miles away ... I say 'good luck' to those wishing to 'score' the source in an afternoon; they are going to need it.
ALL Predator versions can be tasked with finding EMF in any rangeWhat is "EMF"? Traditionally "EMF" stands for Electromotive Force, and is defined as "the external work expended per unit of charge to produce an electric potential difference across two open-circuited terminals."
Good idea, and a bump for later when I have the Big Mew around to translate the tech talk....
I would think that the trucker CB network would be effective in relaying messages across country simply by the fact that line drivers only need a recorded message and every other hour or 100 mile route of travel can broadcast a 2 minute brief which can then be recorded by local base or mobile receivers and further spread by still yet other means of communication.
I realize there are more powerful HF radios that can do all of this in one shot but thats just the weak link, there are for the most part a fixed position. myself I drive a concrete mixer that normally does not travel more than a maximum 90 minute transit time or 60-100 miles in a radius from my batching facility, yet I could easily have an advanced CB radio with a recorded message play capability or simply an emergency call signal similar to what submerged submarines receive to come to surface for a transmission burst. Truckers, cabbies, beer trucks, dump trucks, or RVs can relay that at a certain time on a specified agreed upon frequency be it of any 40 channel, HF, HAM or FM that there is more detailed news to arrive.
The key here is first off simplicity, affordability and anonymity to to users, in effect no licensing, no unique frequency that would be a target for jamming or to be RDF for location.
Just from my point of view without any real background I think what they call the SSB, single side band that can be pumped up is a good first choice, buying a CB 40 channel radio can be done by cash almost anywhere, can be bought off of fleabay and from what I hear if its foreign made can be had with stock higher output.
Bottom line is that communication has become a drug of choice for most of America and trying to limit, censor or restrict it just simply will not fly, too many people have a sweet tooth for such as here right now and cannot conceive of restrictions anymore, they will not be silenced and this is the bowling ball being dropped in a childs small pool.
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