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Who torpedoed Fred Thompson in Iowa?
Vanity | 27 August 2009 | Question

Posted on 08/27/2009 10:21:54 AM PDT by TexasGunRunner

Back during the 2008 Iowa Cacuses, a rumor was circulated the night before that Fred Thompson was going to pull out of the race.

During an interview the next day, Thompson said he knew who was behind it, but refused to discuss beyond saying it cost him "a couple of points".

I understand during the election, nobody was going to admit who did it, certainly not until after November. OK, November came, went, and now the socialist-in-chief has everybody distracted, so, I ask:

who did it?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008rncconvention; chat; election; fredthompson; iowa; romney; romney4obama; romneyantigop; romneyantipalin; romneyantithompson; sniff19; trick
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To: TexasGunRunner

My first speculation would be Romney, his campaign torpoedoed Huckaby with false allegations after Huckaby won Iowa.

It would be consistent if they thought Fred was a formidable candidate to torpoedoe him with falsehoods as well.


41 posted on 08/27/2009 10:53:17 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: TexasGunRunner
"I am not consumed by personal ambition. I will not be devastated if I don't do it. I'm not particularly interested in running for president."

- Fred Thompson, 12/29/2007

...and the Iowa Caucus took place just five days later, on January 3, 2008.

42 posted on 08/27/2009 10:53:39 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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To: TexasGunRunner
Romney has never had a problem with torpedoing fellow GOPers. Just look at what he did to Steve Forbes in 1996.

Gee, doesn't that language echo the type of class warfare arguments that Ted Kennedy et al. were so good at employing? Never trust Mitt Romney.

43 posted on 08/27/2009 10:53:44 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Bob McDonnell for (Virginia) Governor - 2009)
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To: TexasGunRunner

No, sorry. Just my opinion from observing the action over time.


44 posted on 08/27/2009 10:53:58 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Fred’s talk show is good for naps, too


45 posted on 08/27/2009 10:55:00 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: MilspecRob
Is there anybody on Free Republic that can read? Please. I asked a simple and very specific question about a very specific event. I'm crying here...I just want to know who played the dirty trick...not whether he was a canard (I seriously doubt he was), not statements about GOP ineptness, nothing about his timing...this ISN'T FRIGGIN ABOUT FRED...it is about the person or persons who spread a false rumor the day before the Iowa caucuses. That person is a dirty rat b@$+@rd and I want to know who they are. Thanks,
46 posted on 08/27/2009 10:56:43 AM PDT by TexasGunRunner (I'm in Iraq, I'm not going anywhere, deal with it.)
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To: TexasGunRunner

I dunno why, but I really liked Fred. I was hoping to vote for him in the primary, but he was basically out by the time Texas got to vote.


47 posted on 08/27/2009 10:57:19 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: TexasGunRunner

SIGH...this is why FR can be so exasperating at times...

You are looking for insider information on who did what to whom.

Problem is, you’re asking a bunch of folks on an anonymous internet board. We’re pretty much all, by definition, OUTSIDERS.

All you’re going to get is theories, guesses, and suppositions based on previous biases.

I’m not saying you have no right to ask the question. I’m just saying you shouldn’t be surprised or annoyed by the answers you get.


48 posted on 08/27/2009 10:58:03 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (All this Hopium is making me get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Again, not what I am talking about.

The night before the Politico and several other MSM reporters said they were told Fred was going to formally withdraw from the race. Obviously he didn’t and even enjoyed a (very slight) bump in South Carolina.

Perhaps I dreamed it...obviously nobody really knows.


49 posted on 08/27/2009 11:00:46 AM PDT by TexasGunRunner (I'm in Iraq, I'm not going anywhere, deal with it.)
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To: TexasGunRunner

SOMEONE somewhere knows.

But I highly doubt anyone HERE knows.

It’s one thing to ask good questions. It’s another thing to ask them of the right people.


50 posted on 08/27/2009 11:02:42 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (All this Hopium is making me get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: TexasGunRunner

Fred! was my pick, but I must say:

Although it’s possible he was hurt by a false rumor in Iowa, his dispirited campaign up to that point provided a factual underpinning for any such rumor.

Unfortunately, a “front porch” campaign like McKinley’s can’t work today, 99% of the time anyway. I don’t blame smart people for not wanting to spend 18 months of 18-hour days doing fundraising and speeches just to get (and then stay) in office, so we tend to get the sort of ...person ... who DOESN’T mind.


51 posted on 08/27/2009 11:03:20 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Choose Ye This Day

You are absolutely correct.

I didn’t really expect that, maybe more a rumor, or to learn somebody discovered and reported it later.

The misunderstanding or failing to read...that is the exasperating part.

Thanks much!


52 posted on 08/27/2009 11:05:45 AM PDT by TexasGunRunner (I'm in Iraq, I'm not going anywhere, deal with it.)
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To: TexasGunRunner

>> SIGH...this is why FR can be so exasperating at times...

Sorry, just needed to get that off my chest.


53 posted on 08/27/2009 11:07:34 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: TexasGunRunner

Well, Novak reported rumors about the rumor

Said that the rumor was rumored to have come fromm Romney

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1951124/posts


54 posted on 08/27/2009 11:08:52 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (All this Hopium is making me get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: Gene Eric

No worries, I’m please my thread served some purpose.

Take care,


55 posted on 08/27/2009 11:09:13 AM PDT by TexasGunRunner (I'm in Iraq, I'm not going anywhere, deal with it.)
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To: Gene Eric

I think he was Rush’s pick also, but we got the shaft with McPain.


56 posted on 08/27/2009 11:13:14 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Congratulations. You're the one freeper who took some time to do the research to find the answer and not just parrot the “Fred is lazy” talking point.
57 posted on 08/27/2009 11:17:11 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Well, it’s not really an answer. It’s just a reporting of rumors about rumors. I wouldn’t be surprised if Romney’s camp was behind it, but I haven’t actually seen a smoking gun.


58 posted on 08/27/2009 11:19:26 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (All this Hopium is making me get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

More on the rumored Romney rumors about Thompson:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24300

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24303


59 posted on 08/27/2009 11:24:10 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (All this Hopium is making me get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
You know, I tried searching for that, and couldn't find anything. Apparently Google does better when looking for FR articles.

Thanks for the lead.

Here is what I found:

Mike Murphy did it...ties to McCain and Romney

Novak Article

NRO article

Human Events

Thanks much...it was Romney, McCain, some lackey of either of them, or somebody else...hahahaha, wiser but no more knowledgeable.

60 posted on 08/27/2009 11:30:18 AM PDT by TexasGunRunner (I'm in Iraq, I'm not going anywhere, deal with it.)
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