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Crime statistics are only partly interchangable. Britains large cities certainly have a reputation for street crime in certain areas.
1 posted on 08/25/2009 8:09:55 PM PDT by marktwain
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Now a gun ban dreamland, is crime in Britain out of control?

Better get the geniuses at the New York Times to look at this riddle.

2 posted on 08/25/2009 8:12:55 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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Importantly, in a state of violent chaos, as Britain seems to be today, the two complementary responses to the situation are first, to seek order, which in this case implies vigilantism, to replace ineffectual government in the preservation of law and civilization.

The second is to improvise a weapon that is superior to a gun or knife, which will have such a powerful effect as to negate their use. Almost by definition such a weapon would be very dangerous, even deadly.

It is a mystery why the British people have not yet turned to vigilantism to protect themselves from violent criminals. Even a single individual could radically change the equation by resisting.

Otherwise, I think my choice for deadly weaponry would be some variety of compressed gas, sprayed in a thick waft, perhaps chlorine gas. It is instantly disabling, agonizing, and likely lethal.


3 posted on 08/25/2009 8:31:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I lost the youtube video of UK protesters warning US on gun control.

Anybody have the link?


8 posted on 08/26/2009 7:19:55 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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You know these sort of comparisons always bothered me - for example comparing Japan's crime levels with America's - Japan has uber gun law bans and they are low in crime levels compared to the USA.

But that is a bogus comparison. America is a complex society - not a uniform nation with set standards like homogenous Japan is.

England also has unique problems that don't translate well in this debate.

Americans need to be free to own fire arms for reasons only found in America because America is unique. (I don't mean unique in a bragging sort of way I mean it as a plain statement of fact).

11 posted on 08/26/2009 7:30:48 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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The Artful Dodger now packs heat. He doesn’t have to rely on Dirty Bill any more.


13 posted on 08/26/2009 7:35:03 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khitab)
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...the Daily Mail reports that while law abiding citizens have been nearly universally disarmed, the criminals have not and flaunt their power. According to the Mail, "the level of violent crime in Britain has risen by 70 per cent. Gun crime is up by more than half and there are more than 100 serious knife crimes each day...



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15 posted on 08/26/2009 7:57:35 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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This is almost certainly what it comes down to. Just like the US, street crime is largely restricted to certain very bad neighbourhoods. They are not the kind of places you would have any reason to visit.


24 posted on 08/31/2009 6:27:51 AM PDT by Vanders9
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