Well, yes they did:
Posted on 08/25/2009 7:56:39 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
WINNIPEG -- Martial arts instructors are condemning a Winnipeg mother's decision to enrol her bullied son in kick-boxing classes and give him permission to retaliate against his tormentors.
The mother, who asked not to be named, gave her son the green light to "kick the snot out of " his alleged tormentor when school starts next month.....
The mother said a bully has been tormenting her son for years. Both boys are in their early teens, and have attended the same school in Louis Riel School Division.
"It's about time he took a stand and stood up for himself," she said in a recent interview with the Free Press. "He has my full permission to kick the snot out of [the other boy] if he comes up to him."
Mr. Beltran and Mr. Pabuaya both stressed that selfdefence preaches mental discipline before physical training. Both emphasize verbal interaction to avoid heated confrontations.....
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My step-son had a bully attacking him for years. He asked me what to do, I advised him to 'Pick his Battles Wisely'. He waited till the last day of school one year and when the bully came over he beat the snot out of him.
He was taken to the school office and the administrator, who told him not to do any violence again, that he was surprised at him (having be a quiet boy for years). Yet there was no punishment, for it was well know that the bully had been at it with many other kids.
The Bully never came back, because he could never figure out when my stepson would explode again. My stepson has since graduated from Valley Forge Military college (yes, that Valley Forge) and is now a Staff Sargent in the Airforce.
Yes, he learned to choose his battles wisely.
the whole point of martial arts is so you get a kick in and then either have enough time to run away or pull out your weapon. But a martial arts ‘fight’ is stupid. You’ll probably get thrown on concrete or screwed if the bully has friends and/or weapons.
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Is that you, Ralphie (fight with Scut Farkus, a Christmas Story).... I also learned that it doesn’t hurt if everyone thinks you are just a little crazy.
At last one day my big chance came to get back at the bully. Unfortunately, that day my nose was totally congested and my mouth was dry. No snot, no slobber.
He beat me to a pulp.
This isn't about revenge. It is about a kid being kicked silly daily and finally having the means to defend himself. The mother is telling her son to beat the snot out of this other kid if he is attacked again and it is very likely he will be. Are you advocating this kid simply keep taking beatings from another when he has the means to defend himself?
When people attack others, they deserve what they get, even if it is death or maiming. Don't want to die or be maimed? Don't attack someone without just cause(I.E. self defense). I hope this kid beats the sh** out of the bully if he is attacked again. He may actually save some other kids life, because quite frequently bullies grow up to be violent criminals if they are never brought to taks.
Okay.
“Obdula Oblongata”? Where, O master of martial arts, is this part of the body located? I can detect no “Obdula Oblongata” in any medical text.
“But here in the real world the bullies usually take that as a sign of weakness and it only encourages them”
Walking away, or even running away can be an advantage sometimes. My uncle was confronted by a bully at a school dance one time and ran into the rest room, when the bully came in after him (my uncle was waiting for him) it was... “Katie bar the door”. They talked about that fight for years afterwards.
My grandson has been in a mixed MA class for 5 years now. They only 'spar' -- kicks, punches etc., once a month. They practice ground techniques each and every class. Most fights end up on the ground and if you can't handle yourself there, you will lose.
You mean you didn't even fart in his general direction?
Agreed, but a retreat to draw out your enemy is not what Little Miss PC was talking about.
One fellow I know was jumped by four frat boys, one of which was holding his arms while the others punched him. Leaning back and administering a roundhouse kick to the head put one of the frat boys on the sidewalk, snoring before he hit the ground, and ultimately in the hospital, and lackadaisical police investigation and anonymous witnesses combined into a criminal prosecution of the victim of the attack, leading to a suspended sentence.
My roommate back in college was the instructor for the self defense / martial arts program. He had a line he used when starting the self defense classes. Martial arts is not about never having to walk away, its about knowing what to do if the other guy follows you.
Sounds like she's raising 2 boys without a father around. If he was he would have had his son deal with it after the first time.
LOL! You got that right! Only a fool would say in public "Yeah, I taught the little guy how to cripple his opponent." There is a time in many martial arts schools, and I've attended a half-dozen or so, when the sensei identifies which of his students is serious enough to learn the real thing. It's usually after first Dan. It won't be everybody or he/she won't be in business long.
The lady in the article did the right thing by getting her son training and the wrong thing by talking about it. Even a fairly low belt learns things that are extremely valuable in a schoolyard tussle, mainly the simple mechanics of hitting somebody and that the world doesn't come to an end when you get hit yourself. And that's fine when bloody noses and chastened bullies are what you're after.
These aren't combat arts at that point. If they were one of every two fighters would end up dead and the other one in prison unless he were really lucky. That's one reason you settle it verbally if you can. The other reason is that it gives you a chance to look for weaknesses. Just in case.
Well, yes they did:
I would like the answer to that. I dealt with it for years when I was in school. (I graduated HS in 1977.) even then the teachers couldn't be everywhere all the time. I was a little guy, much smaller than most of my classmates. So I learned at an early age that “if you stand your ground but can't hold it your face will get rubbed in it.” So for years I ran. Bullies had a field day with me. I had few friends.
Then one day it all changed. I don't remember a lot of what happened, but I had had enough. I lost it. I picked something up and started wailing on the bigger kid who hit me. Other kids said I just went crazy.
Got a week's suspension from school, but when I got back, it was like, “Leave Fred alone, he's crazy.” And I had no more trouble.
I was bullied by Jimmy Rodgers from 5th to 7th grade. As the big, slow, fat kid in school and I was picked on a lot, but Jimmy always took it far and would torment and hit me. I eventually went completely apesh!t crazy and tried to kill him in our last confrontation. A teacher pulled me off him and sent us both to the principle. We both got paddled and when asked if this would happen again, I said if he touches me, I’d kill him. I was suspended for a week.
When I came back, Jimmy was gone. He had been expelled for fighting and bringing a knife to school. He never came back. (Super poor, trailer trash Only kid poorer them me!)
No martial arts, nothing fancy. Just me trying to smash his head into the floor until it popped.
I was never looking for a fight. (man was I a mommas boy!) After that I had to change the way I walked home to avoid walking by his house.
One good fight will change the dynamic in that kids life. Believe me, I know.
“He has my full permission to kick the snot out of [the other boy] if he comes up to him.”
My dad used to tell me that I should stay out of fights and if I didn’t, he would kick my a$$. Dad also told me that if I were forced to fight to defend myself and refused or lost, he would kick my a$$.
He warned me that in any case, I was required to be right and to be honorable... and if I was, he would support me in anything.... he did.
She not only learned self-defense, but self-respect as well. Someone who is confident and self-assured will not be a victim of bullying.
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