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RUSH: Obama Revives VA DEATH BOOK
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| August 21, 2009
| Rush Limbaugh
Posted on 08/24/2009 8:20:06 AM PDT by Yosemitest
Obama Revives VA Death Book August 21, 2009
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RUSH: Now, folks, Obama says there aren't death panels.
He pooh-poohs the notion that there aren't death panels here.
The Wall Street Journal has an interesting report.
"If President Obama wants to better understand
why America's discomfort with end-of-life discussions threatens to derail his health-care reform,
he might begin with his own Department of Veterans Affairs (VA).
He will quickly discover how government bureaucrats are greasing the slippery slope
that can start with cost containment
but quickly become a systematic denial of care.
Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care
advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, 'Your Life, Your Choices.'"
The VA has a 52-page end-of-life planning document. It has a name.
It's called the "Death Book," and what has happened here,
George W. Bush suspended the use of the Death Books last year.
Obama has reinstated the Death Book! "After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues,
the VA suspended its use.
Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated 'Your Life, Your Choices.'"
So it's called "Your Life, Your Choices."
That's what it's actually called.
But it's a Death Book.
And it "presents end-of-life choices in a way aimed at steering users toward predetermined conclusions ...
[A] worksheet on page 21 lists various scenarios
and asks users to then decide whether their own life would be 'not worth living.'"
I have page 21 right here in my formerly nicotine-stained fingers.
Page 21 from the Death Book, from the VA, reinstated by Obama."What makes your life worth living?
Instructions: This exercise will help you think about and express what really matters to you.
For each row, check one answer to express how you would feel if this factor by itself described you,"
and there are, you know, A through S here. Here's A. "I can no longer walk but get around in a wheelchair."
Life like this would be: "difficult, but acceptable;
worth living, but just barely;
not worth living;
can't answer now,"
and the people reading the book are supposed to check off which of these things apply.
So, Eh, difficult. I could take it.
It's worth living, but just barely.
Not worth living.
"b. I can no longer get outside -- I spend all day at home."
Can you...?
You're asked to say, you know, to hell with it.
I don't want to live that way.
It's the it's not worth living if I can't leave my house.
Hell!"c. I can no longer contribute to my family's well-being."
Eh, that's not worth living. "d. I am in severe pain most of the time.
e. I have severe discomfort most of the time (such as nausea, diarrhea, or shortness of breath)."
My God, that can happen when you're constipated!
So you're sitting here saying, "Okay, I'm constipated. Life's not worth living."
Well, you don't have diarrhea when you're constipated until you do the fix.
"f. I rely on a feeding tube to keep me alive."
Eh, that's not worth living. "g. I rely on a kidney dialysis machine to keep me alive.
h. I rely on a breathing machine to keep me alive.
i. I need someone to help take care of me all of time.
j. I can no longer control my bladder.
k. I can no longer control my bowels.
l. I live in a nursing home."
I live in a nursing home.
Yeah, that's difficult but acceptable.
Worth living but just barely.
Not worth living. "m. I can no longer think clearly -- I am confused all the time."
That describes half the population. "n. I can no longer recognize family/friends."
That sometimes could be a blessing.
"o. I can no longer talk and be understood by others.
p. My situation causes severe emotional burden for my family (such as feeling worried or stressed all the time).
q. I am a severe financial burden on my family.
r. I cannot seem to 'shake the blues,'"
and then there's a section, Here are the instructions: "To help others make sense out of your answers,
think about the following questions
and be sure to explain your answers to your loved ones and health care providers.
If you checked 'worth living, but just barely' for more than one factor,
would a combination of these factors make your life 'not worth living?'
If so, which factors?
If you checked 'not worth living,' does this mean that you would rather die than be kept alive?
"If you checked 'can't answer now,' what information or people do you need to help you decide?"
What makes your life worth living,
and here are the things they want you to assess in the VA Death Book,
and Obama has the audacity to say that in his health care plan -- and he reinstated this.
Bush killed it.
Obama reinstated it.
He has the audacity to say that there aren't anything called death panels or such things in his health care plan,
and he's asking veterans to basically say, "You know what?
I want to check out.
To hell with this!
I live in a nursing home.
Screw it!
Pull the plug.
Where is Dr. Kevorkian?"
This thing is obsessed with death.
It's obsessed with you deciding,
or maybe some influence, that your life isn't worth living.
There's nothing positive in this.
It's not, Nothing.
It's all about: "What's it gonna take for us to get rid of you, with you making the decision?"
And, by the way, regardless your decision,
we're going to be making it for you because of money.
You're going to become a budget statistic.
People's fears are justified.
You know, this is simple.
This is not a complicated thing for people to understand,
and that's why he's having major problems with this.
The VA Death Book brought back to life by President Barack Obama.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhocic; bhoveterans; deathbook; obama; rush; talkradio
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Way to go, Rush.
Great job, and thank you very much.
To: Yosemitest
Move on! The media has thoroughly discredited Sarah Palin on this issue. No need to examine the facts. I saw it on the news.
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posted on
08/24/2009 8:22:22 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(It is not the Townhall crowds that are manufactured, but the Health Care Crisis that is manufactured)
To: Always Right
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posted on
08/24/2009 8:24:27 AM PDT
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: Always Right
Your sarcasm is very funny.
Don't make me spray my computer again with my soda.
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posted on
08/24/2009 8:24:52 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Yosemitest
Congress has to thank God for the media. At least there is one institution that is more mistrusted than Congress.
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posted on
08/24/2009 8:28:11 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(It is not the Townhall crowds that are manufactured, but the Health Care Crisis that is manufactured)
To: Yosemitest
I guess they have removed it.
PAGE NOT FOUND: The page you are looking for is unavailable. The page name may have changed, or the page has been removed. Please use the VA Search to find what you are looking for.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
To notify the VA of this broken link, please Contact the VA with the URL of the page you are trying to reach.
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posted on
08/24/2009 8:28:44 AM PDT
by
Diamond
To: Yosemitest
Agreed. This whole thing is about the money. If it’s not, let them decide how much money it would take to take care of our veterans and if they should decide to end their life, pay their family that amount. One way or another, they have to take care of our vets and their family.
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posted on
08/24/2009 8:29:41 AM PDT
by
RC2
To: Diamond
Yesterday Chris Wallace racked (can’t remember the woman’s name) from the VA, over the coals. She said it was being revised. And Chris question was, while it’s being revised shouldn’t you take it down, she danced all around that. The book was written by a doctor who is a assisted suicide advocate.
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posted on
08/24/2009 8:58:50 AM PDT
by
MsLady
(If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
To: RC2
This whole thing is about the money. Personally, I think it's more about control and staying in power, the money comes last. Just my opinion. I mean, they can just reach in our pockets and take more, and there's nothing we can do about it. Or, if there isn't enough, they just print more money.
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posted on
08/24/2009 9:01:44 AM PDT
by
MsLady
(If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
To: MsLady
Correct. But the less money you have, the more control they have over you.
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posted on
08/24/2009 9:15:04 AM PDT
by
RC2
To: Diamond
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posted on
08/24/2009 9:25:24 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: RC2
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posted on
08/24/2009 9:39:34 AM PDT
by
MsLady
(If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
To: Yosemitest
I’ve started reading Rahm’s “The Plan”. Right up front he criticizes the gov’t getting involved in the Terri Scahivo (sp?) affair, wording the passage as if starving someone ill to death were a given, just axiomatic.
Someone with such axioms cannot be worked with.
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posted on
08/24/2009 9:50:39 AM PDT
by
ctdonath2
(flag@whitehouse.gov may bounce messages but copies may be kept. Informants are still solicited.)
To: Diamond
Here's some more references.
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posted on
08/24/2009 10:15:50 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: massgopguy
To: Yosemitest
It is very much in use. One of my friends and her Dh both get healthcare through the VA since both served. She has MS and at her last visit it was required reading. I am so mad about this! Imagine someone who might be months away from needing a wheelchair being asked if life is worth living once they are in it? LIke she isn’t already depressed over it enough! Outragous!
To: Yosemitest
Thanks, FRiend.
I used Adobe/View/Read Out Loud to listen to page 21. It produces a very creepy HAL9000-like effect.
Cordially,
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posted on
08/24/2009 11:49:30 AM PDT
by
Diamond
To: Yosemitest
Bingo.
He did a great job with this.
They should also unleash the Gingrinch again to double-team on the weirdness coming out of the Obama administration. The science czar Holdren's call for doping the water supply with sterilization drugs for population control. Obama's "stimulus package" is funding
bizarre sex research projects. More Obama supporters on the take probably. 9 trillion in debt and the Dems are funding condom studies. Sort of gives new meaning to the "Trojan Horse" of Obamanomics.
To: Diamond
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posted on
08/24/2009 5:21:04 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: Yosemitest
Death BookPuts an entirely new spin on "dying for one's country, doesn't it?
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