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1 posted on 08/24/2009 8:07:41 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Health care, immigration, gun control. Each of these are potential flashpoints and all are being pushed, through one method or another.

The crack-up will occur prior to the 2010 election. That is why people in Congress will vote for healthcare and not worry about the next election cycle. There won't be a next election cycle.

2 posted on 08/24/2009 8:12:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: neverdem

I fiercely love the right to keep and bear arms and would enjoy sseing all gun laws rescinded, but once govt takes over the health care industry we’re not going to have to worry about our gun rights - they’ll be gone. A govt official will declare gun owners “unhealthy” and any gun owner would then be denied health care and, to really convince him to stop thinking like a free man, they will also deny care to his wife and kids. Could this happen? I think it’s possible. Remember a few years back where children’s doctors were asking “Is there a gun in the house?”


3 posted on 08/24/2009 8:13:28 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: DMZFrank; endthematrix; Chgogal; NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; Lawgvr1955; Petruchio; stylin19a; ...

I see another 5 - 4 for the good guys, IMHO. How could citizens of D.C. have more rights than citizens of Chicago?


4 posted on 08/24/2009 8:14:41 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Does anyone actually believe Sotomayor will recuse herself? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA


6 posted on 08/24/2009 8:18:48 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: neverdem
Both petitions challenge a Seventh Circuit Court ruling that the Amendment does not restrict gun control laws adopted by state, county or city government, but applies only to federal laws.

Am I English challenged? What the heck kind of backwards talking society are we living in? The Second Amendment as written, applies to all jurisdictions. However, the First Amendment does not. Congress shall not

So the busybodies are running around arguing that you can't pray in schools and have to allow pornography locally on First Amendment grounds when it contains a Congress shall not statement, yet local jurisdictions CAN ban guns when the Second Amendment does not contain a Congress shall not statement.
7 posted on 08/24/2009 8:22:08 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: neverdem
Incorporation is the next logical step after Heller. Justice Kennedy will likely vote for incorporation, since he did vote with the Conservative Justices in Heller. The Liberal Justices will vote against hearing this case and will vote against incorporating the Second Amendment. They will rely on stare decisis, to defend the 19th Century cases which ruled the Second Amendment did not apply to the States based on reasoning that was meant to convert the Fourteenth Amendment into a nullity.

PREDICTION: 5-4 for incorporation, with United States v. Cruikshank (1875), Presser v. Illinois (1886) and Miller v. Texas (1894) overruled. Opinion of the Court written by Justice Kennedy, with the primary (possibly sole) dissent written by Justice Stevens.

12 posted on 08/24/2009 8:35:02 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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The Commerce clause must be undone ... That is where all this crap federal cram down springs from

The Civil War Amendments were racially based Amendments, incorporating the Bill of Rights for the new freedmen. The Democrat's racist southern governments tried to impose “black codes” which prevented former slaves from possessing guns.

These “Black Codes” were specifically designed to subjugate these recently freed slaves to be defenseless and at the mercy of the Democrat party's terror wing, the KKK. Congress passed a few laws to try and remedy this problem, but it wasn't until the Bill of Rights was incorporated did it become ‘fixed’.

Incorporation was specifically designed to force the several States to incorporate in their Constituions the federal Bill of Rights. So if this goes down ... does it become unfixed and depending on race you can control who owns a gun, or who has free speech, or (put your favorite right here)

Of course the "Civil War Amendments" did nothing to stop the Democrats terror wing, the KKK, whose influence finally dropped off in the 1950s.

Going to be an interesting time.

So you ask how did the Democrats remain in control of the southern states, quite simple, they had their terror wing, the KKK, go out and lynch the political opposition. Yes that's right, more whites were lynched by the KKK than were blacks, and for the same reason ... Intimidation and control.

13 posted on 08/24/2009 8:36:27 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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To: neverdem; All

Every Freeper should be a member of the NRA. Enroll in an extra gun group if you feel the need but the media and the leftists hate and fear the NRA above all others.

Please join.


14 posted on 08/24/2009 8:37:12 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: neverdem

I can live without incorporation, if they’d rule that the Commerce clause prohibits federal regulation of arms.


18 posted on 08/24/2009 8:54:27 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Typical "Rightwing Extremist")
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To: neverdem

My brother and I had a good talk yesterday. There is only two or three things that will really set a person off.

Take away his food. Make him hungry.
Take away his method of personal security. Take his guns.
And take away his roof. Throw him out in the cold.


21 posted on 08/24/2009 8:59:04 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tar and feather the sons of bi#ches! Ride them out of town on a rail!)
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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58295

KKK lynching stats


81 posted on 08/24/2009 10:30:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
85 posted on 08/25/2009 9:33:19 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

The leftist aka progressive gun haters have forced the pro right to bear arms side into using reasons for a right. You know reasons like defense, hunting, collecting, and of course target shooting.
There is only one reason for a right. It is your right.


93 posted on 09/03/2009 10:28:17 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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