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Mercury Marine union in Wis. rejects concessions (8000 jobs lost) Mercury Marine moving to OK
AP ^ | 8-23-09 | AP

Posted on 08/23/2009 3:10:52 PM PDT by Indy Pendance

FOND DU LAC, Wis. – Union workers at Mercury Marine put their jobs at risk Sunday when they rejected a package of wage and benefit concessions the boat engine maker said it needed or it would move their work to a nonunion plant in Oklahoma.

Union leaders did not immediately release Sunday's tally but said the vote was "overwhelming" to reject what the company called its final offer.

The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers, Local 1947, represents 850 workers at Mercury Marine, the largest employer in the eastern Wisconsin city of Fond du Lac and the world's largest manufacturer of boat and recreational marine engines.

Mercury Marine issued a statement after the vote saying it will move many of its Fond du Lac manufacturing operations to its facility in Stillwater, Okla., over the next two to three years. The company said it would continue to operate the Fond du Lac facility for now under the terms and conditions of the existing contract, which expires in 2012.

"This has been a very difficult and stressful process for all involved," Mark Schwabero, president of Mercury Marine, said in a statement. "We will work closely with our team in Fond du Lac to develop and communicate a transition plan for this 24-36 month process."

Mercury Marine spokesman Steve Fleming had said last week that if the offer was rejected, the union and company could resume talks and hold another vote this coming Saturday, but its offer would not change.

Local 1947 President Mark Zillges said Friday there would be no further negotiations. He did not immediately return a phone call Sunday seeking comment.

Fond du Lac city manager Thomas Herre called the vote "a huge disappointment."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; doyle; manufacturing; mercurymarine; obamafailurer; ok; oklahoma; unions; wi; wisconsin
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To: GladesGuru

>>>Or have they quit and therefore forfeited unemployment?

With the ‘Rats running WI - no, they have not - they will get full unemployment benefits.


141 posted on 08/23/2009 5:09:17 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Obama-care won't pull Grandma's plug - because Grandma won't be plugged in under Obama-care.)
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To: PAR35

Yes.


142 posted on 08/23/2009 5:09:51 PM PDT by omega4179 ( -14 and cratering.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Union leaders did not immediately release Sunday's tally but said the vote was "overwhelming" to reject what the company called its final offer.

I do wonder, however, who counted the votes.

Was it really "overwhelming"? I know that back in my union days (closed shop), a good 30% of the membership was primarily anti-union but had to join to be employed.

143 posted on 08/23/2009 5:10:33 PM PDT by meyer (Do not go gentle into that good night - Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: TheConservativeParty

It’s Milwaukee and Madison, the rest of the state if pretty conservative. I live in Washington County, the most conservative county in the state. Most of us aren’t on the government dole or work for government, but those two counties ruin our state. Just like the rest of the lib states around the country. What a joke Dane and Milwaukee counties have made our state.


144 posted on 08/23/2009 5:11:30 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Indy Pendance

The path is pretty clear.

You can lay down and die like GM and Chrysler, or follow the Caterpillar route and play to win.


145 posted on 08/23/2009 5:12:08 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I wonder who has put more people out of work. Obama or the unions.

The unions, but only because they have such a head start...

146 posted on 08/23/2009 5:12:12 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 214 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Roklok

Ha, what a joke, York or Wisconsin. Bad or badder.


147 posted on 08/23/2009 5:12:56 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kcvl
Accept concession or lose job...how stupid do you have to be especially in this economy?!

For high unemployment states (that is most of them) you get 79 weeks of unemployment benefits and it will probably get extended to 92 weeks.

I say you are stupid to work if they pay you not to work for nearly 2 years. Why be stupid and work ?

You are practically a chump for working.

148 posted on 08/23/2009 5:13:06 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: headstamp 2

Could someone explain Card Check to me—what it is and how it works? thanks.


149 posted on 08/23/2009 5:15:45 PM PDT by navymom1
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To: TexasCajun

Thought was floating in my head also. thanks for putting visual to it.


150 posted on 08/23/2009 5:15:59 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Secret Agent Man

Briggs and Stratton moved their operations elsewhere, didn’t they? I’m sure that’s only one example.


151 posted on 08/23/2009 5:16:38 PM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: Indy Pendance

Atlas Shrugs in Wisconsin.


152 posted on 08/23/2009 5:17:14 PM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: meyer

There are 2000+ people working at the plant, 850 or so are union and THEY determined the fate of the company. If 426 voted yes, the plant moves. What a colossal joke. Now consider all the suppliers, restaurants, businesses, homes, families, etc in a town of about 50K people. Reports are at least 8000 workers will be affected. The surrounding areas are done. It’s finished. And the governor just smiles and says what a great job he’s done for the state. He’s a disaster. Wisconsin is the fed gov just smaller area. We are seeing here what zero is going to do to the country. Hold on, it’s going to be BAD.


153 posted on 08/23/2009 5:18:24 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bill1952

The thing is it all comes down to the idiot workers voting for this, not the union bosses. I can’t believe the common sense of the workers themselves here with times like they are, even Dem commie voters. I would love for the ballots to be unsealed to see exactly what the “overwhelming” percentage was.

I don’t trust those union leaders as far as I could throw them.


154 posted on 08/23/2009 5:19:08 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Indy Pendance
Why would anyone vote themselves out of a job? Are people this brain dead?????

No the are not. If the concessions are deep enough, you probably make more on unemployment than if you worked and unemployment is likely to be 92 weeks.

Furthermore, the proposed "card check" bill (if passed) will require "binding arbitration" so the arbitor may impose a settlement on Mercury Marine so that they have to stay and they have to pay union wages.

155 posted on 08/23/2009 5:21:14 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Indy Pendance

Grew up with Mercury Engines! They are and always were Fantastic! and You knew they were created in Fond du Lac!
Rebuilding one after You had blown it up was always Impressive and those 610+ Needle Bearings had to be put in precisely or it became a blob of aluminum fast:-(
I can’t beleive these Idiots are following the DEMORAT Mantra and they are going to be slopping Mickey D’s Gourmet Burgers at $7.15/hr in a year or two! STUPID MACHINISTS and STUPIDER UNION DEMOGOGERY!! OH YEA! Guys tell Your boy wonder, OBOZO, that You demand card check too.....:-)
GOD BLESS OKLAHOMA and OUR GREAT UNITED STATES!!


156 posted on 08/23/2009 5:21:35 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Washington county, now there’s an option to moving out of state!


157 posted on 08/23/2009 5:21:58 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("I am Sarah Palin." and "I am the NRA.")
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To: TexasCajun
"Hummmm ...Take over Mercury, Fire the board of directors and executives, give 'the people' back their company"

Well, what color are Mercury outboards, hmm?

158 posted on 08/23/2009 5:22:31 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: staytrue

You might try using some math befor you delude yourself into thinking a Machinist is going to come out ahead on
$1500/month Unemployment. Do You work for the local democrat Congresscritter with those kinds of statements?


159 posted on 08/23/2009 5:26:12 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Union card holders ought to have “STUPID” tattooed on their foreheads. Being from Michigan, I say turn it into a Right to Work state and the jobs will not be leaving.

Good luck to union cheeseheads, hope you like working at the Scotish restaurant - McDonalds.


160 posted on 08/23/2009 5:26:26 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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