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To: ColdWater
I have read much of what is at the Discovery Institute’s site and what you quote here is irrelevant (as are the snide trivialities) to the question of whether I.D.ers are attempting to replace God in our language with I.D. or “Intelligent Designer”.

I.D. belief alone would be indifferent to who the Intelligent Designer is, God, The DemiUrge, no one at all.

In brief: The formal I.D. movement has not wanted to be identified with creationism since they don't wish to be identified with a religious belief. That doesn’t make every word they utter false or germane to intelligent design in the generic sense.

Creationists as a whole have no reason to reject the idea of an intelligent designer as God is most certainly viewed as intelligent and a designer by creationists. That is NOT agreement with the I.D. movement's pronouncements of agnosticism, atheism, or who knows-ism.

Ir's not my discovery.org and it's not IDGUNSGUTS either.

The question remains how I.D.ers are removing God from the language, in spite of your disgorgement of material irrelevant to the point.

86 posted on 08/24/2009 9:53:05 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Creationists as a whole have no reason to reject the idea of an intelligent designer as God

Are you saying the ID is God?

BTW, where did I read something about assigning human qualities to God....

87 posted on 08/24/2009 9:59:11 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: count-your-change
Ir's not my discovery.org and it's not IDGUNSGUTS either.

My point in using 'your' is that you put it up as your example of ID movement. Just to be clear that it was you, not me.

88 posted on 08/24/2009 10:00:35 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: count-your-change
The question remains how I.D.ers are removing God from the language, in spite of your disgorgement of material irrelevant to the point.

Sorry. I somehow thought that showing examples of how ID'ers were distancing themselves from God and creation was relevant.

89 posted on 08/24/2009 10:02:24 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: count-your-change
Ir's not my discovery.org and it's not IDGUNSGUTS either

You are right. IDGunsGuts works for another site.

90 posted on 08/24/2009 10:03:35 PM PDT by ColdWater
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