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To: ColdWater

Well, are you going to share with us this two post “momentum”? Or just keep saying “obvious”?


76 posted on 08/24/2009 8:26:37 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Behe: This while I argue for design, the question of the identity of the designer is left open.


77 posted on 08/24/2009 8:31:31 PM PDT by ColdWater
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Demski: The most obvious difference is that scientific creationism has prior religious commitments whereas intelligent design does not. ... Intelligent design ... has no prior religious commitments and interprets the data of science on generally accepted scientific principles. In particular, intelligent design does not depend on the biblical account of creation.”


78 posted on 08/24/2009 8:32:25 PM PDT by ColdWater
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Demski: ID is not an interventionist theory. Its only commitment is that the design in the world be empirically detectable. All the design could therefore have emerged through a cosmic evolutionary process that started with the Big Bang. What’s more, the designer need not be a deity. It could be an extraterrestrial or a telic process inherent in the universe. ID has no doctrine of creation.


79 posted on 08/24/2009 8:33:23 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: count-your-change

More from your discovery.org.

The two most prominent creationist groups, Answers in Genesis Ministries (AIG) and Institute for Creation Research (ICR) have criticized the intelligent design movement (IDM) because design theory, unlike creationism, does not seek to defend the Biblical account of creation. AIG specifically complained about IDM’s “refusal to identify the Designer with the Biblical God” and noted that “philosophically and theologically the leading lights of the ID movement form an eclectic group.” Indeed, according to AIG, “many prominent figures in the IDM reject or are hostile to Biblical creation, especially the notion of recent creation….” (4) Likewise, ICR has criticized ID for not employing “the Biblical method,” concluding that “Design is not enough!” (5) Creationist groups like AIG and ICR clearly understand that intelligent design is not the same thing as creationism.


81 posted on 08/24/2009 8:44:33 PM PDT by ColdWater
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